Posted on 03/19/2011 5:57:15 PM PDT by bimboeruption
Popcorn please!
Islam is not compatible with freedom and liberty, in the way the Founding Fathers understood the concepts.
The savages already, and for years, have controlled the middle east!!! My God!! Forget this ‘muslim brotherhood’ jazz. They are all of the same outfit. Forget bush’s ‘religion of peace’ CRAP! Remember 9/11 and what those bastards did to our Country. I hope those tomahawks are forcing those there now, who danced in the streets at America’s attack then, to now have to chose to jump to their deaths or burn alive in a high rise building.
I was thinking about how the supreme authority for me personally is the Bible. But the Bible is not in conflict with the US Constitution. So I can in good conscience say that I support and defend the US Constitution. A Muslim couldn’t do that, because the US Constitution guarantees freedom of religion, and sharia can’t abide that.
Farrakhan couldn’t be elected a dog catcher...
Because the Constitution was written by Christians. Jesus recognized there would be governments - the whole "Give to Caesar" thing. Islam does not differentiate between government and Islam.
The difference between Islam and Christianity is clear. Christ teaches forgiveness. Mohamed teaches killing. Killing is the nature of their religion.
The example of Mohamed on forgivness Sahih Muslim, Book 17: 4206
There came to him (the Holy Prophet) a woman from Ghamid and said: Allah's Messenger, I have committed adultery, so purify me. He (the Holy Prophet) turned her away. On the following day she said: Allah's Messenger, Why do you turn me away? Perhaps, you turn me away as you turned away Ma'iz. By Allah, I have become pregnant. He said: Well, if you insist upon it, then go away until you give birth to (the child). When she was delivered she came with the child (wrapped) in a rag and said: Here is the child whom I have given birth to. He said: Go away and suckle him until you wean him. When she had weaned him, she came to him (the Holy Prophet) with the child who was holding a piece of bread in his hand. She said: Allah's Apostle, here is he as I have weaned him and he eats food. He (the Holy Prophet) entrusted the child to one of the Muslims and then pronounced punishment. And she was put in a ditch up to her chest and he commanded people and they stoned her. Khalid b Walid came forward with a stone which he flung at her head and there spurted blood on the face of Khalid and so he abused her. Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him) heard his (Khalid's) curse that he had huried upon her. Thereupon he (the Holy Prophet) said: Khalid, be gentle. By Him in Whose Hand is my life, she has made such a repentance that even if a wrongful tax-collector were to repent, he would have been forgiven. Then giving command regarding her, he prayed over her and she was buried.
The example of Jesus on forgivness (John 8:1-11)
But Jesus went to the Mount of Olives. Early in the morning He came again into the temple, and all the people were coming to Him; and He sat down and began to teach them. The scribes and the Pharisees brought a woman caught in adultery, and having set her in the center of the court, they said to Him, "Teacher, this woman has been caught in adultery, in the very act. "Now in the Law Moses commanded us to stone such women; what then do You say?" They were saying this, testing Him, so that they might have grounds for accusing Him. But Jesus stooped down and with His finger wrote on the ground. But when they persisted in asking Him, He straightened up, and said to them, "He who is without sin among you, let him be the first to throw a stone at her." Again He stooped down and wrote on the ground. When they heard it, they began to go out one by one, beginning with the older ones, and He was left alone, and the woman, where she was, in the center of the court. Straightening up, Jesus said to her, "Woman, where are they? Did no one condemn you?" She said, "No one, Lord." And Jesus said, "I do not condemn you, either. Go. From now on sin no more."
What a joy it is to have a Lord who instead of throwing stones to condemn me for my sin hung on a cross and took the punishment for my sin so that I could be free of guilt, free to just love Him in return. A God who doesn’t need to be served as if He’s a baby, but a God who does the hard work of redemption for us. One who gives to the undeserving and makes something beautiful out of nothing, so we are free to love with the same love He gives us.
A God who doesn’t have to be worshiped at the threat of beheading but who actually does things worthy of worship. A God who gives a million times more than He takes. Who comes not to “steal and kill and destroy” but who comes “that they may have life and have it to the full”.
Our youth group is studying Islam right now. We watched a movie called “Osama”, about a prepubescent girl in Afghanistan whose father was killed at war and who had to pose as a boy so anybody in the family could go out of the house (since women can’t go out unaccompanied by a male) and earn money for food.
It was such a contrast. I asked the kids to think of Jesus appearing in that context, and the way He dealt with women of all kinds. They loved Him because He loved them and gave everything He had for them, to lift them up through forgiveness/redemption and make them equals before God. He allowed women to be the first eyewitnesses of His resurrection.
There are two sides of love, just as there are 2 sides of God - His justice and His mercy. The cross is where God’s justice and mercy meet; it’s where those who need mercy trade their sin-stained rags for Jesus’ robe of righteousness and He is stoned/beheaded/condemned for the guilt of the sin stains He wears for us. It’s where He dug us out of the hole where we should be stoned, took our place there, and was killed by God’s justice towards all our sin. Somebody has already been stoned to death for all the sins in Iran, Afghanistan, and everywhere. God has already gotten the just payment for those; He doesn’t need any more bloodshed to purge sin. The very price He demanded is what He Himself paid out of His just and merciful love for us.
I know there are people who think that all religions are equally valid and it doesn’t matter what you believe, and certainly people are free to believe as they see fit. But having a God who is both just and merciful, who saves us and sets us free to serve others because our needs are already met by Him, makes all the difference in the world. Hatred comes from fear, but there is no fear in perfect love, which is what we have been given in such full measure that it can overflow to others.
In a very real sense that background of our Founders shows in the Constitution, because they didn’t have to FORCE anybody to believe a particular religion. They were free to let people be free in their conscience and in religion because they didn’t have to prove to their God how vengeful they are over sin, how zealous for everybody else’s purity, how closed to any thoughts but their own.
I hadn’t noticed before but when you focus on the eyes in that they don’t change a bit.
The Koran and hadiths are replete with examples of Muhammad's barbaric behavior. It is not a religion of peace.
Robert Spencer does a good job here explaining Islam - Blogging the Qur’an Start at the bottom.
My computer won’t let me see videos. Won’t let me download Flash Player. Spencer has good stuff though. The series we’re using is by a guy who was a Muslim.
I was looking at some of the sites he linked to for a more in-depth look at the requirements of Islam and couldn’t exactly pinpoint what made me so uncomfortable about their Prerequisites for the Declaration of Faith. I did a little looking around and came across “8 Marks of a Mind Control Cult”, at http://www.freeminds.org/psychology/mind-control/eight-marks-of-a-mind-control-cult.html . I wanted to prepare the kids to understand how an entire society could accept the things that are so widely accepted in Islam. Wow. The dictionary should have a photo of Islam as the definition for “mind control cult”. All 8 marks are the characteristic features of Islam.
And not only are they working on keeping their own people under cultish mind control, they are working to spread the same cult charactaristics to the entire world. For instance, under “Milieu Control”, I note that textbook companies will not publish textbooks that aren’t approved by Muslims. Banning criticism of Islam is the ultimate in “The Sacred Science” (that can’t be criticized).
I also copied an analysis of the Muslim guy who beheaded his wife after stabbing her 40 times. She was a threat to him, because if he couldn’t control and abuse her it would prove he was a failure. The very existence of free thought in her was proof that he was not a good enough cult leader to her. Every man is to have his own cult in the form of the women he controls and who worship everything he does. If she does less than that it is a condemnation of him.
And the whole treatment of women is milieu control. The whole philosophy that a group of Muslim men are being tempted beyond any ability to control themselves if Lara Logan is in a crowd with them without wearing a burqa... is the epitome of milieu control. If their milieu isn’t controlled even to the extent of hiding every woman’s ankles it will be too tempting for them; they won’t be able to help themselves from raping and doing violence. It’s like they’re being trained to be wolves who can only be kept from devouring sheep if all the sheep are hidden from them forever. If a sheep dares to exist openly it is too tempting for them; the very existence of the sheep is threatening to them. That threat justifies their “dispensing of existence”. That wife was RIGHTFULLY beheaded in the mind of her husband, because she was a threat to him, and the cult decides who has the right to exist (see the 8th “mark”).
Islam is demonic, and I don’t use that word lightly. That is not to say that the people who are involved in it are bad people or that they are all under the total influence of the cult, but it is to say that it is a cult and just as good people are deceived into all kinds of cults and kept in them because of the methods of mind control, there are good people who are being badly harmed because of the manipulations of this cult.
And I’m sure some groups do more with the cultic aspects than others, which is probably more of what the distinction between “moderate” and “radical” is really about. The “moderates” may believe the same things as the “radicals” (such as the requirement that apostates be killed), but they may not have as much influence or total control because they aren’t as extreme in the cult elements of mind control.
Of course Islam is a cult. It’s founder was a pedophile for cryin out loud. This pedophile calls for the murder of all “infidels,” aka people who do not agree with him.
Few people seem willing to say that it is a cult. And a person deals with a cult differently than they deal with a religion. Nobody was too worried about the finer points of Jim Jones’ theology. When people are free to have clear minds the finer points of the theology can be seen as inconsistent and incongruent with reality. Until then, it does no good to even TRY to talk sense with adherents. The first step is to break the control of the cult, and then people are free to think clearly and see the deception for what it is.
I think we have a hard time understanding why the Saudis, for instance, would be so threatened by women being able to drive, or by women not having to wear burquas in France, or why just allowing somebody to make a cartoon of Mohammad is enough to kill people over.
It’s the first crack in the power of the cult. If people are allowed to question whether Mohammad was really right to have sex with a 9-year-old girl, it introduces the unthinkable ability to question the prophet. If ever that is allowed, people will begin to realize that their emperor is naked and a pervert. They can’t allow those thoughts to even be considered because that would destroy the cult’s mind control.
Incidentally, I see the same methodology in Soros’ handling of Obama’s ineligibility. Look at the media and tell me that they are not just like the Muslims responding to infidels’ suggestions that Mohammad is a violent pedophile. Look at how people are thrown off the media’s “island” if they dare to QUESTION the documentation of “the One”. It is a cult. The methodology of Obama’s 2 favorite ideologies - communism and Islam - can’t help but rear its ugly head when push comes to shove. Same thing with the unions. It’s cultic control. It’s all they know; they don’t know how to reason with people, only how to control them.
They're gonna have a problem controlling me.
You are correct. It is mind control. I see it in other religions, as well. ie The Jim Jones cult you referred, where a murder/suicide pact was made.
The cult of Islam has made a murder/suicide pact not unlike that of the Jones cult. The difference, as I see it, is the Jones cult determined to off themselves. While the cult of Islam will murder anyone in their path, including themselves.
Beyond mind control, I don't know how a religion or cult could convince members of their religion, or cult, to murder others, while committing suicide.
The process has to be related to some sort of prehistoric phenomena/psychosis somehow still prevalent today.
We could argue innate or learned. I'm going with a consortium of both having influence on their behavior.
Whatever it is, the result is the equivalent of a pre-historic club wielding class of people.
Excellent post and explanation. The Saudi’s and other Islamic nations are deathly afraid of freedom.... especially the freedom to question.
It is very cult-like.
In the absence of truth and information it is not difficult to convince people of a lie.
There are people in North Korea who believe that Americans eat their children. From a psychological standpoint, interviews of North Korean defectors are fascinating (and sad). When the state (or religion in the case of Islam) controls information and education they can convince the majority of almost anything. There is also an element of fear among those who question because it is taboo to doubt the Prophet and potentially dangerous.
This is obviously why Western progressives have focused on education, government, and the media. It is why they hate talk radio so much..... they don’t control it and their own brand does not sell when people can simply change the dial in the privacy of their own home or car.
I have 3 small kids now and my wife and I are constantly shocked at the outright environmentalist propaganda on children’s programming. Every other show has some kind of “environmental” message. If my young kids continued to watch television and attended public schools the message would continue all the way through college.
Education for muslims is not possible, since the cult will not allow it. Besides, the cult members don't want to hear it anyway. And if they did, then some other member/s of the cult would murder them.
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