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To: BenKenobi
Anyways, long term, that is one of the benefits of the monarchy to retain the general character of the nation. I’d accept your argument if it meant going back to how things were done prior to the revolution, but I sincerely doubt that many Americans, even those who are sympathetic, would support this

You have it completely wrong. The feudal doctrine that usurped the original common law of England based on natural law is what has caused the many civil wars in England and across its colonies from the Norman Conquest forward. In fact, it really wasn't until the mid 1300’s that the feudal doctrine really gained a hold and it is that doctrine that is the core of oppression. It forces the will of a Sovereign ruler by taking away the natural God given rights of locomotion. Cicero, Aristotle, Grotious, Pufendorf Sidney & Locke are the works in which Vattel brought together and laid out so simply & eloquently and why since his time, his works are quoted more than any other in Supreme Courts around the world to date. He took the natural right & reason of all those before him and gave us the basis for all international law today.

61 posted on 03/19/2011 11:10:32 AM PDT by patlin (Ignorance is Bliss for those who choose to wear rose colored glasses)
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To: patlin

Respectfully disagree with the assessment that feudal administration began in the 14th century. There’s pretty solid evidence for it in the 11th. Granted, before the governance was not nearly as strong, but it would be difficult to argue that Britain was at all prosperous from the 5th to the 10th century. It’s a complicated and difficult period to study, in part because of the lack of centralization.

“He took the natural right & reason of all those before him and gave us the basis for all international law today.”

Without question. Very much in agreement. However, I’m very skeptical that taking the UK’s system of naturalization would work in America without the Queen. Even as a constitutional Monarch, she’s got significant influence all out of proportion with the political power that she weilds, and across many different nationalities and governments. Even in America she is highly regarded.

I wonder how much of the damage caused by Obama could have been mitigated with the Queen.


62 posted on 03/19/2011 11:20:14 AM PDT by BenKenobi (Don't expect to build up the weak by pulling down the strong. - Silent Cal)
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