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Video: Donald Trump Joins the Long List of Obama Eligibility Doubters; Goes Birther on ABC
Obama Release Your Records ^ | March 17, 2011 | Obama Release Your Records

Posted on 03/17/2011 11:59:21 AM PDT by RobinMasters

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To: jamese777

But that would mean that he and his handlers have the DISCIPLINE to sit on this proof.
Nothing I’ve seen about him or his handlers would indicate the willingness or ability to sit on the proof when they could be out there destroying their political enemies.


101 posted on 03/18/2011 6:16:20 AM PDT by Maverick68
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To: RobinMasters
I think he hits on a point that most people feel.

He has no resume to speak of, has a book written by someone else, and then he's president. No history of achievement, just promotions.

102 posted on 03/18/2011 6:30:11 AM PDT by PA-RIVER
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To: bluecat6
This reference to being born in Indonesia is always interesting. From a reporter. One with no apparent axe to grind. So why Indonesia? It is not a quote. The reporter inserts the statement on their own. Reporters don’t usually make things up (OK, they used to not).

The most likely explanation is that he got this information from Tammy Duckworth, since the rest of the story is based on an interview with her. The reporter later said it was HIS personal error and that he found the claim of Obama being born in Indonesia on the Internet. This doesn't ring true, considering when the story was published. Who would have had anything about Obama being born in Indonesia posted anywhere on the Internet?? What I'm curious about with Tammy Duckworth is why she would think Obama was born in Indonesia unless he told her so.

103 posted on 03/18/2011 8:11:47 AM PDT by edge919
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To: jamese777

true , only the A.G. of the United states and the A.G. of the district of Columbia has standing to request a quo warranto for obama. since this will not happen, it’s still up to Congress to remove obama, who can use quo warranto.


104 posted on 03/18/2011 8:21:40 AM PDT by omegadawn (qualified)
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To: omegadawn

true , only the A.G. of the United states and the A.G. of the district of Columbia has standing to request a quo warranto for obama. since this will not happen, it’s still up to Congress to remove obama, who can use quo warranto.


You are correct. In his opinion in Taitz v Obama, Judge Lamberth said that a Writ of Quo Warranto can be requested by an interested third party and his interpretation of that statement, based on legal precedents in other cases, is that an interested party must be a representative of the people, meaning Congress or another federally elected official, like the Vice President.

Therefore, it is likely that any member of Congress could request a Writ of Quo Warranto against Obama from either the Attorney General or the US Attorney for the District of Columbia and if those officials refuse the request, a member of Congress could go to the US District Court for the District of Columbia(just like Orly Taitz did) and a judge could grant the quo warranto request under the DC Code, forcing Obama to show by what authority he holds the position of President of the United States.
However, in the two plus years since Obama was inaugurated, no member of Congress has sought a Writ of Quo Warranto.


105 posted on 03/18/2011 8:45:35 AM PDT by jamese777
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To: Maverick68

But that would mean that he and his handlers have the DISCIPLINE to sit on this proof.
Nothing I’ve seen about him or his handlers would indicate the willingness or ability to sit on the proof when they could be out there destroying their political enemies.


Is Obama constantly making jokes about his birth certificate to keep the issue alive and in the media?
Did he just have the Marine Corps. band play “Born in the USA” last weekend at the big press-DC Politician dinner?
The strategy at this point in his term is to force his political enemies to go on the record one way or the other on the issue.
They might have more discipline than you give them credit for.
Enemies destroyed in the Fall of 2012 are much better than enemies destroyed mid-term.


106 posted on 03/18/2011 8:50:22 AM PDT by jamese777
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To: jamese777

Even if Obama produces a genuine birth certificate in 2012, he still can’t change that he was born to a foreign national father, was once listed as an Indonesian citizen, and doesn’t fit the classic SCOTUS definition of natural born citizen.


107 posted on 03/18/2011 9:04:26 AM PDT by edge919
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To: RobinMasters
Let me tell you, I’m a really smart guy. I was a really good student at the best school in the country.

Trump is a metal midget who got lucky. He's only out for what's in his best interest. I'd vote for Mittens before I'd vote for him.

108 posted on 03/18/2011 9:15:12 AM PDT by McGruff (Drill, Baby, Drill.)
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To: jamese777
I believe that every member of congress is told by party leaders that if they attempt to remove obama it would destroy their careers and our country could end up in a civil war. And if they don't agree to keep quite,maybe their lives re threatened. You realize what would happen if everything obama had signed , or appointments made were suddenly void. It could very well destroy both the Republican and the Democratic party. it would be worth it to restore the Constitution and save our country.
109 posted on 03/18/2011 9:26:06 AM PDT by omegadawn (qualified)
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To: edge919

Even if Obama produces a genuine birth certificate in 2012, he still can’t change that he was born to a foreign national father, was once listed as an Indonesian citizen, and doesn’t fit the classic SCOTUS definition of natural born citizen.


No he can’t.

But neither the Courts nor Congress seem interested in those details.

Their position appears to be: let the voters decide whether they care about the classic SCOTUS definition of natural born citizen or not.

It is obvious that the Roberts Court is not interested having already rejected 13 Obama eligibility appeals and not one of the nine Justices has ordered Obama to submit a brief in defense of his position.

The other two branches of government appear loathe to undo the electoral decision of 69,456,897 voters and 365 Electors.


110 posted on 03/18/2011 9:26:20 AM PDT by jamese777
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To: omegadawn

I believe that every member of congress is told by party leaders that if they attempt to remove obama it would destroy their careers and our country could end up in a civil war. And if they don’t agree to keep quite,maybe their lives re threatened. You realize what would happen if everything obama had signed , or appointments made were suddenly void. It could very well destroy both the Republican and the Democratic party. it would be worth it to restore the Constitution and save our country.


Well, I certainly wouldn’t want all those disasters to occur when I can vote the guy out in a year. The last time we had a Civil War because a lot of folks didn’t like the guy who got elected, 600,000 Americans lost their lives.

And besides, members of Congress might be saying to themselves, on the day Obama was inaugurated the Dow-Jones Industrial Average closed at 7,921 and today it’s at 11,900.

Politicians like their investment portfolios and that makes it easy to rationalize that “things aren’t THAT bad.”

Normal people don’t think like politicians.


111 posted on 03/18/2011 9:39:54 AM PDT by jamese777
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To: PA-RIVER

I think he hits on a point that most people feel.
He has no resume to speak of, has a book written by someone else, and then he’s president. No history of achievement, just promotions.


He was able to raise $656,357,572 in individual contributions, which is a pretty solid accomplishment and get 69,456,897 people to vote for him. No other American politician has been able to accomplish either of those goals and in the profession of elected politician, it’s all about money raised and votes tallied.
It can be a fatal mistake to underestimate Barry Soetoro as a politician.


112 posted on 03/18/2011 9:56:48 AM PDT by jamese777
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To: jamese777
When Lincoln was elected(but before he was sworn in), the south knew that he would be a economic disaster, so they chose (legally) to separate themselves from the union. Their right to do so was supported by the Supreme court and the current President Buchanan ,who ordered a peaceful transfer of power to the Confederacy. When Linclon was sworn in he realized that 2/3 of the federal tax base was from the south. He attacked the south, as always follow the money. there is truth to the old saying that we have the best politicans money can buy!!
113 posted on 03/18/2011 10:59:11 AM PDT by omegadawn (qualified)
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To: PA-RIVER

I can see it coming.

The next assignment for the contestants on the “Apprentice” show:

Find Baraq’s birth cert


114 posted on 03/18/2011 11:02:33 AM PDT by nascarnation
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To: jamese777

It has been estimated that approximately $200,000,000 of that money was from foreign nations (muslim) and obama has not yet released any information on this money as required by law.


115 posted on 03/18/2011 11:03:06 AM PDT by omegadawn (qualified)
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To: omegadawn

It has been estimated that approximately $200,000,000 of that money was from foreign nations (muslim) and obama has not yet released any information on this money as required by law.


Wrong.
Obama was a 90.2% full disclosure on campaign donations, 3.7% incomplete disclosure and 6% no disclosure.
http://www.opensecrets.org/pres08/summary.php?cycle=2008&cid=N00009638

And Senator McCain was at 87.2% Full Disclosure, 3.7% Incomplete Disclosure and 9.2% No Disclosure.
http://www.opensecrets.org/pres08/summary.php?cycle=2008&cid=N00006424


116 posted on 03/18/2011 11:16:11 AM PDT by jamese777
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To: jamese777
Center for Responsive Polities

Support for the Center comes from a combination of foundation grants, individual contributions and payments from custom research requests. Major donors to the Center include the Sunlight Foundation, the Pew Charitable Trusts, the Carnegie Corporation of New York, George Soros’ Open Society Institute, the Joyce Foundation.

Jamese777, your information came from the above source,a far left backed organization. no creditability at all. I stand by my statement until you can post a more creditably source.

117 posted on 03/18/2011 12:19:51 PM PDT by omegadawn (qualified)
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To: omegadawn

Center for Responsive Polities
Support for the Center comes from a combination of foundation grants, individual contributions and payments from custom research requests. Major donors to the Center include the Sunlight Foundation, the Pew Charitable Trusts, the Carnegie Corporation of New York, George Soros’ Open Society Institute, the Joyce Foundation.

Jamese777, your information came from the above source,a far left backed organization. no creditability at all. I stand by my statement until you can post a more creditably source.


The data comes straight from the federal financial disclosure forms submitted by each candidate.
You provided no source at all for your $200,000,000 guess.

There have been ZERO lawsuits adjudicated against Obama or McCain for illegal campaign contributions.


118 posted on 03/18/2011 12:55:38 PM PDT by jamese777
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To: jamese777

The last numbers I saw show McCain at almost 100% compliance , obama still refusing to explain foreign money. complaints were filed, but elections commission refuses to take action.


119 posted on 03/18/2011 1:06:50 PM PDT by omegadawn (qualified)
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To: omegadawn

The last numbers I saw show McCain at almost 100% compliance , obama still refusing to explain foreign money. complaints were filed, but elections commission refuses to take action.


How about providing a source to those compliance numbers you saw.

It’s a shame that the Federal Election Commission hasn’t pursued any of those complaints against Obama, particularly since there is not a single FEC commissioner who was appointed by President Obama.

2011 Chair of the Federal Election Commission: Cynthia L. Bauerly was nominated by President Bush on May 6, 2008. Her appointment received the unanimous consent of the United States Senate on June 24, 2008.

Vice Chair of the Federal Election Commission:
Caroline C. Hunter was nominated to the Federal Election Commission by President George W. Bush on May 6, 2008. Her appointment was approved by the United States Senate on June 24, 2008.

Commissioner Matthew S. Petersen was nominated to the Federal Election Commission by President George W. Bush on June 12, 2008, and unanimously confirmed by the United States Senate on June 24, 2008.

Commissioner Steven T. Walther was first sworn in as an FEC Commissioner on January 10, 2006, as a recess appointee. Although his name was placed before the Senate for confirmation in June, 2007, his recess term expired on December 31, 2007, before the Senate acted. On June 24, 2008, he was confirmed unanimously by the Senate and sworn in by Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg on June 27, to resume the balance of his statutory term.

Commissioner Donald McGahn was sworn into office as a Commissioner of the Federal Election Commission on July 9, 2008. Nominated by President Bush on May 6, his appointment received the unanimous consent of the United States Senate on June 24, 2008.

Commissioner Ellen Weintraub received a recess appointment to the Federal Election Commission on December 6, 2002, and took office on December 9, 2002. She was renominated on January 9, 2003, and confirmed by unanimous consent of the United States Senate on March 18, 2003. Shortly after her arrival at the FEC, Ms. Weintraub was elected Chair of the Commission for the year 2003. She is the third woman to serve on the Commission.


120 posted on 03/18/2011 3:14:42 PM PDT by jamese777
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