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To: jamese777
jamese777 said:

I can’t convince you on a historic hypothetical but I bet I can convince you that Barack Hussein Obama II ran for president, was elected 44th President of the United States and in 90 adjudicated attempts to challenge his eligibility as a natural born citizen, no court including the Supreme Court of the United States has ruled him to be ineligible.

Thank you. Now we are getting somewhere. This is fact. It is the fact we all have to deal with. However, what is also fact is that the issue of Natural Born Citizenship (or lack thereof) will rear its ugly head again. The courts can continue to "kick the can" down the street for a latter court to decide.

Or, they can decide now and resolve this situation before reelection occurs, preventing yet another stain on the history of this nation. The truth will be revealed, and when it does, any trust the citizens of this country had for the Supreme Court and the judicial system will be null and void should Obama fail to have qualified. The same will apply to the DNC and RNC, if they are still in power. They will lose all authority they have to pick and choose qualified candidates. It does not bode well for them to ignore this issue.
172 posted on 03/04/2011 9:48:02 AM PST by devattel
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To: devattel

Thank you. Now we are getting somewhere. This is fact. It is the fact we all have to deal with. However, what is also fact is that the issue of Natural Born Citizenship (or lack thereof) will rear its ugly head again. The courts can continue to “kick the can” down the street for a latter court to decide.

Or, they can decide now and resolve this situation before reelection occurs, preventing yet another stain on the history of this nation. The truth will be revealed, and when it does, any trust the citizens of this country had for the Supreme Court and the judicial system will be null and void should Obama fail to have qualified. The same will apply to the DNC and RNC, if they are still in power. They will lose all authority they have to pick and choose qualified candidates. It does not bode well for them to ignore this issue.


It is certainly true that we might get clarifying legislation out of Congress or a precedent setting court decision at any time. That’s the way our system works.
I wonder if Obama would sign an eligibility bill into law?
Since the Constitution is unequivocably clear on its prohibitions against ex post facto laws and Bills of Attainder, we have to look to the future.


176 posted on 03/04/2011 10:13:08 AM PST by jamese777
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jamese777 said: “...in 90 adjudicated attempts to challenge his eligibility as a natural born citizen, no court including the Supreme Court of the United States has ruled him to be ineligible.”

Not a lawyer here - nor even a law student - so perhaps I’m just ignorant of some legal fact of which jamese777 is aware, regarding court rulings.

I’ve always been under the impression that under the US judicial system, in order for there to be a court ruling in a case - the case must first be “heard”.

Perhaps there’s a list somewhere of all those “is Obama eligible to be US president” cases - not those waiting in limbo, or those smacked down due to “lack of standing” - bet those cited...no, not cited...hhmmmmm...implied by jamese777 as having been heard and ruled upon by the Supreme Court, and whatever other courts.

Thank you in advance for enlightening me.


179 posted on 03/04/2011 2:05:57 PM PST by GGMac ((lesson learned re Obie: parse every sentence, every word, every gesture.))
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