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Fantasywriter said:

The fact that the Founders didn't spend time debating the meaning of NBC is actually a major point in your favor. It indicates they all clearly knew what it meant. It's like today, when a conservative says, 'illegal immigrant', we don't spend hours and days trying to define the term. We all know exactly what it means. Ditto the Founders. They only had to debate issues that needed clarification--not the ones they all clearly understood a priori.

You are 100% correct. It was one of the rare few requirements that remained unchanged throughout the ratification. Citizens understood what allegiance meant then. Citizens do NOT understand what allegiance means now.

Many countries have removed the ability to allow dual citizens in their nation. Ireland was one of the more recent. They understood the harm that was occurring in their country by the pure "watering down" of the importance of sole citizenship. Without unified allegiance, a nation will fall because there isn't a clear generational investment to the nation it represents.

I equate it to free agents in the NFL. It is difficult for a team to grow together and produce a sense of harmony when all you have is a resident you can not assume will be there next season. And when they run over to the opposing team when they feel it is in their own personal best interest, all their knowledge of their prior team goes with them.

Does this encourage a healthy society of citizens with a unified sense of sovereignty? I think not!

[Fantasywriter]

Well said! I found your info re: Ireland fascinating. When even Europe is figuring it out, it can only mean one thing: American leftists will double down on their error. ;)

The football analogy is good, except for one thing. Even a free agent has every motivation to play well. His value to the team paying him, and more importantly to future teams, rises and falls on his performance. He may—and certainly will—undercut the esprit de corps (or should I say ‘corpse’?), but at least the agent is playing for his team for all he’s worth.

A POTUS with divided loyalties may very well play for the other side. When you’re dealing with a post-American, post-modern marxist with an axe to grind—and he’s not even a NBC—it only makes sense he would play for HIS team, not ours. That is what the Founders intended to prevent. In the Age of Stupidity, there are plenty who don’t understand that, but it’s true nonetheless.