Posted on 03/02/2011 10:15:41 AM PST by rxsid
jamese777 said:
The Supreme Court is not a court of original jurisdiction. They would send an appeal back to the Court of Appeals for a trial on the merits. After that trial and appeals are heard and the actual finding gets back to the Supremes, it would be well after the 2012 election.
The Supreme Court is a court of original jurisdiction. Here are the cases where a party can directly submit a case to the Supreme Court, as per U.S. Code:
(a) The Supreme Court shall have original and exclusive jurisdiction of all controversies between two or more States.
(b) The Supreme Court shall have original but not exclusive jurisdiction of:
(1) All actions or proceedings to which ambassadors, other public ministers, consuls, or vice consuls of foreign states are parties;
(2) All controversies between the United States and a State;
(3) All actions or proceedings by a State against the citizens of another State or against aliens.
Obama can not pass any further law upon immediate decree he is ineligible, should the case ever be decided and the decision claims the Natural Born Citizen clause is what it is supposed to mean.
A sidebar to this is why the multiple states did not just go directly to the Supreme Court for the health care bill. Apparently the attorney generals do not know the law.
No Health Care lawsuit has sought a Supreme Court ruling as an original jurisdiction case either.
Everyone is making this so complicated.
How can you impeach a person that is not legally a President? If you can prove it, just send the Sheriff in to send him to court and lock him up until he proves he is a legit citizen?
Everyone is making this so complicated.
Why Hillary never did anything about this will always bug me. My guess, she realized it after it was too late.
Listen..its time to move along..you made a gallant effort supporting your golden calf Obama..this is not to be denied but at this point you are only embarrassing yourself.
Please show some self respect..think of your dignity. Its time to go.
Take care and God Bless.
Listen..its time to move along..you made a gallant effort supporting your golden calf Obama..this is not to be denied but at this point you are only embarrassing yourself.
Please show some self respect..think of your dignity. Its time to go.
Take care and God Bless.
Thank you jamese777. Best factual reply I have received on a subject ever ib FR.
I was hoping that everything that he has signed would be void. According to your facts...it would hold up. He is the President now like it or not.
Why Hillary never did anything about this will always bug me. My guess, she realized it after it was too late.
Everything that Obama has signed into law originated in Congress and if it is still the law of the land, that means that the Supreme Court has not found it to be unconstitutional (yet). Under our system of government, it takes all three branches of government to implement law.
Have we located both editions?
“Two London editions of Emmerich de Vattel’s The Law of Nations were in circulation at this time: a 1759—;60 edition in 2 vols., and a 1760 edition in one.”
Congressional Globe, 1833-1873 : Index to 28th Congress, 2nd Session
INDEX TO THE APPENDIX.
28th Cong.Senate and House of Representatives.2d Sess.
A.
Adams, J. Q., on the western boundary of Louisiana ... 187
Alabama, concerning the debts of ... 52
Allegiance, natural. (See Webster. See Vattel.)
http://rs6.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/D?hlaw:20:./temp/~ammem_ff0W::
Of course. None of them fit the criteria of original jurisdiction. I was merely correcting your statement that the Supreme Court does not have any original jurisdicition.
Obama waited until AFTER she conceded the primary to release his fraudulent COLB. As much dirt as she might have had on him, not even she would have been able to access his birth records in Hawaii. She had no way of knowing he was going to post a fraudulent COLB. By then, it WAS too late. Had she complained, it would have looked like sour grapes or the race card would have been played.
James is an 0h0m0 toady. Don’t believe anything he posts. Lies, distortion, dissimulation, obfuscation, misquotes, partial quotes, and worse are his methods.
page 100
MR. SAUNDERS'S REPORT ON NATURALIZATION
First, the act of 1802, which repeals all former acts.
It restores the provision of the declaration of intention to three years before application, and a residence of 5 years before admission, and requires proof of good character, renunciation of former allegiance, as well as of all titles or orders of nobility, and an oath to support the constitution; it requires the “registry” of aliens “in order” to become citizens, and the production of the certificate of registration when applying for admission. It further provides for the children of aliens, whether born within or out of the United States
An Act To establish an uniform rule of Naturalization and to repeal the acts heretofore passed on that subject
Approved April 14 1802 US Statutes at Large Vol 2 pp 153 155
SEC 4 And be it further enacted That the children of persons duly naturalized under any of the laws of the United States or who previous to the passing of any law on that subject by the government of the United States may have become citizens of any one of the said states under the laws thereof being under the age of twenty one years at the time of their parents being so naturalized or admitted to the rights of citizenship shall if dwelling in the United States be considered as citizens of the United States
So clearly we see that some states proffered local citizenship to children of aliens born in that state prior to the adoption of the 1st US Naturalization Act of 1790, but it was not until the father was naturalized & became himself a US Citizen that the child, if under the age of 21, became a US Citizen after the 1790 Act was passed, thus his allegiance was utterly temp & local and had nothing to do with US Nationality.
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