Free Republic
Browse · Search
Bloggers & Personal
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Barack Obama - Was NOT 'Born among us'
Nobarack08 ^ | 3/1/2011 | syc1959

Posted on 03/01/2011 6:32:39 PM PST by syc1959

Our President must be matured by the experience of years, and being born among us, his character at thirty-five must be fully understood. Wisdom, virtue and active [8] qualities of mind and body can alone make him the first servant of a free and enlightened people.

What does this mean? 1. This was written in 1787, during the time that the United States Constitution was being discussed by the People. Just like the Federalist and Anti-Federalist Papers were written during this time.

During this time, the United States was under the Articles of Confederation and under the Constitutions of the individual States and were no longer under British Law and as such were Americans and no longer British subjects.

2. The people, were the citizens of the States. This did not include foreigners. Citizenship was a right for the decendants of citizen fathers, as stated in the Naturalization Act of 1790, and did not include indentured servants, slaves, free blacks, and later Asians. While women were included in the act, the right of citizenship did “not descend to persons whose fathers have never been resident in the United States….” Citizenship was inherited exclusively through the father. This was the only statute that ever purported to grant the status of natural born citizen.


TOPICS: Politics
KEYWORDS: certifigate; illegal; obama; unconstitutional

1 posted on 03/01/2011 6:32:42 PM PST by syc1959
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: syc1959

It couldn’t be easy when your mother is a Jackal.....


2 posted on 03/01/2011 6:36:52 PM PST by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: syc1959

In defining an Article II “natural born Citizen,” it is important to find any authority from the Founding period who may inform us how the Founders and Framers themselves defined the clause. Who else but a highly respected historian from the Founding period itself would be highly persuasive in telling us how the Founders and Framers defined a “natural born Citizen. ” Such an important person is David Ramsay, who in 1789 wrote, A Dissertation on the Manners of Acquiring the Character and Privileges of a Citizen (1789), a very important and influential essay on defining a “natural born Citizen.”

David Ramsay (April 2, 1749 to May 8, 1815) was an American physician, patriot, and historian from South Carolina and a delegate from that state to the Continental Congress in 1782-1783 and 1785-1786. He was the Acting President of the United States in Congress Assembled. He was one of the American Revolution’s first major historians. A contemporary of Washington, Ramsay writes with the knowledge and insights one acquires only by being personally involved in the events of the Founding period.

In his 1789 article, Ramsay first explained who the “original citizens” were and then defined the “natural born citizens” as the children born in the country to citizen parents. He said concerning the children born after the declaration of independence, “[c]itizenship is the inheritance of the children of those who have taken part in the late revolution; but this is confined exclusively to the children of those who were themselves citizens….” Id. at 6. He added that “citizenship by inheritance belongs to none but the children of those Americans, who, having survived the declaration of independence, acquired that adventitious character in their own right, and transmitted it to their offspring….” Id. at 7. He continued that citizenship “as a natural right, belongs to none but those who have been born of citizens since the 4th of July, 1776….” Id. at 6.


3 posted on 03/01/2011 6:56:24 PM PST by Lmo56 (If ya wanna run with the big dawgs - ya gotta learn to piss in the tall grass ...</i><p>)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: syc1959


4 posted on 03/01/2011 6:57:00 PM PST by Diogenesis (Si vis pacem, para bellum)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: syc1959

Wherever he was born, he is not one of us. His allegiance is to Marx, Alinsky, Allah and Lucifer.


5 posted on 03/01/2011 8:46:01 PM PST by Defiant (The One must become the "One and Done".)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: syc1959

Constitutional distinctions like this bore the American people. They are looking for the check in the mail; I am afraid for the insanity of my fellow Americans.


6 posted on 03/02/2011 4:06:08 AM PST by Theodore R. (John Boehner just surrendered the only weapon with which he had to fight. Shame on OH and the USA!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: syc1959
The dissertation by David Ramsey in 1789 was very revealing on the entire Article II requirements. Here are the reasons why:
  1. The residency requirement was intended to prevent the first presidents from being subjects with foreign allegiance during the war - 14 years puts candidates in the U.S. just prior to 1776 upon the ratification of the Constitution
  2. Natural born citizens existed between 1776 and 1787 - obvious, but needs mentioned due to the Grandfather clause
  3. Only citizens of citizens were natural born, provided their fathers did not die in the Revolutionary War
  4. Dual citizens were not permitted to be natural born
  5. The age of 35 guaranteed that persons of questionable allegiance were weeded out
You can read his brief but succinct dissertation here:

http://www.scribd.com/doc/29342214/Ramsay-Natural-Born-Citizen-1789
7 posted on 03/03/2011 10:03:21 AM PST by devattel
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
Bloggers & Personal
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson