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SurvivingCalifornia.com ^ | 1/19/2011 | SurvivingCalifornia

Posted on 01/19/2011 10:16:36 AM PST by survivingcalifornia

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To: survivingcalifornia

MERS doesn’t actually own the loans, they’re just a servicer. Their website allows for owners to look up who currently holds their note.

https://www.mers-servicerid.org/sis/

It seems to me like some judges are overstepping their authority on the hopes that public sentiment will keep them from getting busted for it.

When a borrower signs their name and promises to repay the loan based on the terms therein, no judge should be allowed to let them skate. If this is allowed to stand, judges can be bribed to simply nullify any number of mortgages and banks will refuse to make home loans.


41 posted on 01/19/2011 4:33:47 PM PST by Two Kids' Dad ((((( )))))
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42 posted on 01/19/2011 5:32:43 PM PST by The Comedian ("Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice" - B. Goldwater)
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To: Two Kids' Dad

MERS has never been thought of as an owner.

They came about because MBS dealers realized what they had done and have been trying to put the genie back into the bottle ever sense. They are a go-between. But they originally told a court (Florida, I think) that they were the owners. Actually they are a clearing house of info. They are supposed to know where EVERTHING is...paperwork, owners, etc.

MERS attempted to get around the law of recording a loan everytime it was bought and sold by having one of their people assigned as a VP at every security’s firm (dealer in MBS’s). They tried to say that the MBS’s never really got bought and sold. They were just ‘transferred’ from one location to the next.

This was thrown out immediately. MERS has lost in many states.


43 posted on 01/19/2011 5:34:01 PM PST by survivingcalifornia (Newbie)
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To: Two Kids' Dad
When a borrower signs their name and promises to repay the loan based on the terms therein, no judge should be allowed to let them skate.

You see that is the thing, no one can prove that any one signed their name

44 posted on 01/19/2011 5:52:47 PM PST by Straight Vermonter (Posting from deep behind the Maple Curtain)
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To: Brookhaven
If they ever got the paperwork straightened out in the future they would come after the property, and the new owner would be screwed.

Not quite, if it takes Fifteen* or more years for them to sort things out you can claim Squatter's Rights**.
*Depending on the State
**Actually termed "Adverse Possession"

45 posted on 01/19/2011 6:00:17 PM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: stylin19a

Is it very difficult to locate properties that are clear (fully paid for)? It seems that this should be the route for serious buyers.


46 posted on 01/19/2011 6:08:44 PM PST by Silentgypsy
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To: Two Kids' Dad

As mentioned on other threads on these events, there are a numbber of legal-moral constants that should apply.

When you sign a mortgage with its terms weighted for the lendor, it becomes a negotiable instrument. The rules of how they can sell your loan, trade on it, or slice and dice it are few. But to have true ownership to your property, those few rules must be followed. The buyer of a lender’s mortgage must hold it and properly record it so that who you owe and how your property has claims against it is absolutely clear at all times to protect you and your property.

If the lending community goes of an orgy of government encouraged borrowing and trading of their own and fails to honor the legal standards that have been in place for centuries with cute games and schemes, then a good court and good legal procedures will slap them down.

If I go build somewhere and don’t register in the state and don’t make myself liable for taxes but yet cheat and fight with those I do business with in that state, I know the courts will say “who are you”, deny me standing to defend or claim and I am screwed because I didn’t follow time honored rules. Claims of “what’s right is right” should not be the resort of gamesmen.


47 posted on 01/19/2011 6:45:30 PM PST by KC Burke
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To: The Comedian

Hmmmmmmmmmm


48 posted on 01/19/2011 7:27:04 PM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: The Comedian
Ok... so... the court give the homeowner a free and clear judicial deed and makes the mortgage note, wherever it is, worthless. Then, the sucker holding the bond backed by the worthless mortgage note goes wee wee wee all the way home to the Goluman Sox who sold it to him and says... “gimme my munny back, sucka.” Then, the Goluman Sox takes the crappy bond back to Fannie/Freddie and says...’Screw Clinton, darned it! We want our money back...” Then, the big, bad wolves at F and F turn around and schlep over to Banco of Armenia and say... “Hey! Where's the note...” At which point the Fed steps in and buys the darned thing before anyone wakes up at Moodies or Standardless and Poor and causes a market stink. Then a bunch of other stuff happens and the Fed prints more Bernak Munny to pay for all of this. Meanwhile... back in reality land... folks is hurtin ans the money's no good... at which point, pitchforks and hammer handles become hard to find at the local Big Box hardware store...
49 posted on 01/19/2011 7:30:57 PM PST by April Lexington (Study the Constitution so you know what they are taking away!)
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To: survivingcalifornia
I will bookmark yours.

I give you credit, you don't excerpt your posts and try to direct traffic to your site to read the rest like a lot of bloggers who bring their stuff here.

50 posted on 01/19/2011 7:41:08 PM PST by Defiant (There is no line on the march towards marxism that Democrats won't cross. Democrat=CPUSA)
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To: editor-surveyor
No, what it will do is drive the cost of Title Insurance through the roof.

Who will write a policy for a "vehicle" that's been stolen, used to injure a bunch of people on a crime spree, then totaled?

Oh, and we mustn't forget the "vehicle" was over-appraised to begin with.

51 posted on 01/20/2011 3:50:19 AM PST by Chunga85 ("Foreclosure Fraud", TARP, "Mortgage Crisis", Bailout)
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To: survivingcalifornia
Back up my universe?
Listen up fruitcake, ethics is a myth sold by underachievers to try and constrain the overachievers. I will buy and sell stock based on the numbers and not by my "feelings" about a company, and I use that same cold logic for anything and everything related to finances. Many years ago I did some work for a guy and then he decided not to pay. Told me right to my face he wouldn't pay just because I couldn't legally prove that he owed me, and he was right. I had no recourse other than take it on the chin and never leave myself open like that again, and I never have. My finances directly involve the health and welfare of my family and with that in mind, and for their benefit, if I see a chink in your armor I will strike, and if that means beating you, or a mortgage company out of 500 large then believe me I am looking for that chink and will capitalize on it without hesitation or remorse. I don't believe in shaking hands with the devil, but if I have to, as in the case of my mortgage, the devil can expect it back as good as he gives if given half a chance.
Tell your children when they are starving that they should feel good because in your own opinion you took the high road. I'm sure they'll understand. While you're at it, change your business to a not for profit since you clearly aren't looking for one, and also, move to a part of the country where freezing to death is a possibility. Don't worry, you can wrap yourself in your ethics to keep warm.

We clearly have no common ground, so don't bother with a reply unless you just want to post a response to stroke your own ego. Have at it, as this will be my last communication with you.
52 posted on 01/20/2011 5:53:14 AM PST by domeika
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To: survivingcalifornia

sfl = save for later (reading)


53 posted on 01/20/2011 6:30:32 AM PST by houeto (Government derives its just powers from the consent of the governed.)
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To: Chunga85

That is exactly my point.

The cost of the hours of investigation that would be required before a title company could write a policy could be $40,000 or more.

This has to be reversed.


54 posted on 01/20/2011 9:53:54 AM PST by editor-surveyor (NOBAMA - 2012)
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To: survivingcalifornia; domeika

>> “The history of this country is replete with great business ethics” <<

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You are living in the pre-obama world that passed away three years ago, and I can’t forsee its return in my lifetime. The economic damage that has been done to the entire world to put that bag of vomit and his agenda into office is obviously more than you have been able to comprehend.

Start stocking up on storable dry food and tents now and don’t ask why; your education will arrive later.
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55 posted on 01/20/2011 10:16:37 AM PST by editor-surveyor (NOBAMA - 2012)
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To: KC Burke

Perfectly said. I agree 100%


56 posted on 01/20/2011 11:33:02 AM PST by survivingcalifornia (Newbie)
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To: KC Burke

Pefectly said. I agree 100% with you.


57 posted on 01/20/2011 11:36:43 AM PST by survivingcalifornia (Newbie)
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To: Defiant

Thanks. I did at first because I thought that is what was wanted by the group. My blog is just my journal of where I see the economy going and such. I am not doing it for money or anything. I am just glad that others are finding it helpful/interesting.

Makes me feel like I am not alone...and, of course, contributing to the solution side.


58 posted on 01/20/2011 11:42:31 AM PST by survivingcalifornia (Newbie)
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To: houeto

oooooh! I looked it up in the urban dictionary and sfl was “stop f’ing lying” or “so f’ing lame” or a coule of others.

Yours is so much better.


59 posted on 01/20/2011 11:46:19 AM PST by survivingcalifornia (Newbie)
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To: Quix; All
Oh boy...maybe this is why they're always losing their homework...yikes.

Multiple pledged notes...huh...must be a scriveners error (or millions of scriveners errors).

Multiple Pledged Notes | Freddie Mac / Bank of America / Taylor Bean Whitaker – IMPORTANT INFO & STATEMENT REGARDING ASSIGNMENTS… TRANSFERS… NOTE OWNERSHIP…

$nip>

“Indeed, it appears as though many loans and other mortgage-related assets have been double and even triple-pledged to various constituencies“

Ha Ha! They're not gonna get away with it.

60 posted on 01/20/2011 12:43:14 PM PST by Chunga85 ("Foreclosure Fraud", TARP, "Mortgage Crisis", Bailout)
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