Thank you, Bruce, for your thoughtful response. I am understanding now, much more clearly where you are coming from and that helps me understand your intent, which I do perceive to be genuine. I am sorry, too, for being a bit more pushy, but sometimes I feel like I have to do that to get to the bottom of what a person is saying. Not that that is a good excuse!
What I really want is SOLUTIONS! We all do! I hear in your last post just how sick you are about the whole thing, too, and I don’t blame you for sticking to principals, that’s important to me, too, but there has to be a way to overcome this imposture. We all know he is. No one goes to the lengths he has to hide his identity and not be an imposture!
As I said up-thread, we have to fight this battle or lose the war. That I am sure of (instinctively, a gut feeling, not factually—I might add.)
What do you think, along with addressing this at state level? Creatively, and thinking outside the box, what cleaver way can this be addressed nationally? That is what my silly idea above was about. Thinking outside the box.
Yes, I am aware of Bobby Jindal and others like him, and I understand that a strict idea of NBC cuts good folks out of the loop. I am sorry for that, but life just isn’t always fair! Lines do get drawn for good reasons and sometime it causes people to be adversely affected. I don’t always get to do what I want to do because of line drawn in my circle of influence! You could probably say the same. So IF the NBC thing ends up to be clearly understood as two citizen parents of someone born in the US, then I am sad for the Bobby Jindal types, but there are many good people who can do a good job.
Anyway, I am expounding unnecessarily, now. So, I’ll shut up. But let’s conservatives all work together *nicely* to find common ground and a workable solutions that will ultimately CLARIFY BEYOND A DOUBT what NBC means. It can be done, I know it. It MUST be done.
Best Wishes, Bruce.
I agree with you on this. If he gets re-elected, it might not matter who runs in 2016.
Before I was a lawyer, I was a combat Marine officer. Marines have a reputation for being tough, but Marines really pride ourselves on fighting smart as well. There are a bunch of military analogies I won't use, but they all go to the enemy suckering you into territory of his choosing anbd finding yourself trapped, fighting a battle on the wrong piece of ground.
Oh heck, I will use one. One of the most famous campaigns in Marine history was the Chosin Reservoir campaign. It's famous because those Marines displayed incredible toughness and professionalism in fighting their way out of North Korea at great odds. But one critical factor in the successful "advance in another direction" was that the CG of 1st Marine Division, O.P. Smith, refused to get suckered into over-pursuing Chinese and NK units. He deliberately dawdled in carrying out some orders so he could keep his units more concentrated and better able to resist a Chinese attack he was sure was coming, even if MacArthur wasn't. And the Chinese wanted to drag him further north, get his regiments strung out in the mountains, and then strike for complete destruction. But by refusing to take the bait, and not getting sucked into a battle on bad terrain where his division would be isolated, Smith made the key decision that may have saved the whole division. It left the 1st MarDiv sufficiently concentrated, just barely, to tear the guts out of the swarm of Chinese divisions seeking to destroy them.
To me, the birth certificate argument is just bad ground. The left wants conservatives to jump all over that argument, because it hasn't been successful and, in the minds of the swing voters we must win in 2012, discredits anyone who jumps on board. It's the lovely red herring out there.
Whatever anyone else chooses to believe here, I'm a dedicated conservative lawyer with a pretty good pedigree. And if they can't convince a guy like me that I'm wrong on the 14th Amendment, then there is absolutely zero hope of convincing all the people more in the middle that you'd need to convince to get any real political mileage out of the issue.