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Ethanol Could Go on GOP Chopping Block
Capitol Confidential ^ | 11/11/2010 | Jarrett Skorup

Posted on 11/11/2010 8:16:36 AM PST by MichCapCon

When the Republican majority is seated in the House of Representatives this January, many have high expectations that they will cut government spending as many of the candidates promised on the campaign trail. But the tricky question now is: Where to cut?

Some energy and environmental experts say they should begin with energy subsidies; specifically for ethanol.

Ethanol is a biofuel made mostly from corn in North America and can be used as an additive to gasoline. In many states, there is a mandated 10% blend with gasoline; the idea being to lower the amount of oil needed.

But many experts say this doesn't work.

"Contrary to popular belief, ethanol fuel does little or nothing to increase our energy security or stabilize fuel prices," wrote Kenneth Green, a scholar at the American Enterprise Institute. "Instead, it will increase greenhouse gas emissions, local air pollutant emissions, fresh water scarcity, water pollution (both riparian and oceanic), land and ecosystem consumption, and food prices."...

(Excerpt) Read more at michigancapitolconfidential.com ...


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To: Question Liberal Authority

It’s actually worse. Corn is converted into foo, wood isn’t.


21 posted on 11/11/2010 8:50:15 AM PST by Former Proud Canadian (How do I change my screen name now that we have the most conservative government in the world?)
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To: bkepley
“What to do with all that corn likker?”
The sargents from the film “Fort Apache” know just what to do.
22 posted on 11/11/2010 8:52:06 AM PST by fella (.He that followeth after vain persons shall have poverty enough." Pv.28:19')
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To: Question Liberal Authority

The feds (EPA) in many areas already ban wood for home heating. With alternative fuels (oil, natural gas, coal, electric) increasingly unaffordable and more people falling from the rolls of the employed, this measure leaves many people with no access to heating during the winter.

Incidentally, wood-burning power plants do exist in those areas with an intense lumber industry, which yet persists only where big government hasn’t found an excuse yet to ban lumbering.


23 posted on 11/11/2010 8:52:53 AM PST by dufekin (Name our lead enemy: Islamic Republic of Iran, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, Islamofascist terrorist dictator)
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To: MichCapCon

ethanol exists for socialist farmers and their overlords... it causes harm to any engine that consumes it and it damages our ecology only slightly less that it harms our economy.

LLS


24 posted on 11/11/2010 8:56:40 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (WOLVERINES!)
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To: Question Liberal Authority
What’s the difference between burning corn and burning wood? If someone was to propose setting aside millions of acres of farmland to grow trees so that they could be burned in a wood-burning electrical power plant, that person would be run out of town on a rail. Yet, that scheme would actually be more efficient than ethanol, because the entire tree could be burned. You wouldn’t have to extract oil and then refine it into fuel.

I actually work for a company that is trying to make ethanol from pine. We have made methanol and will make ethanol soon. It is experimental and I am not sure about its viability.

25 posted on 11/11/2010 8:58:52 AM PST by SeeRushToldU_So ( Go Braves! --Braves are gone.)
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To: MichCapCon

Live by the market-distorting government subsidy, die by it!


26 posted on 11/11/2010 9:04:23 AM PST by Wally_Kalbacken
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To: freekitty

The problem is that combining Ethanol with gasoline deprives you of all the uses for pure Ethanol:
1) Alcohol lanterns & cooking-stoves
2) Disinfectant
3) Human consumption
4) As a money* item

*’Money’ being an easily transportable, easily dividable, valued substance enabling trade.


27 posted on 11/11/2010 9:06:18 AM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: freekitty

It should be illegal to blend ethanol, should be considered fraud. Existing merchantability laws already cover this.


28 posted on 11/11/2010 9:07:48 AM PST by steve86
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To: nikos1121

or HUD, Agriculture, Commerce, Labor, Transportation, HHS, and the EPA...


29 posted on 11/11/2010 9:12:50 AM PST by achilles2000 ("I'll agree to save the whales as long as we can deport the liberals")
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To: tcrlaf

Ethanol is nothing but a FARM SUBSIDY

It really is that.

But I disagree with the arguments in this thread or elsewhere concerning food prices. The entire corn industry, ethanol or its food derivatives, is a major part of agricultural subsidies which are simply misguided, to be diplomatic, and politically corrupt to be more correct.

In the food arena it's not like Americans don't consume enough food (especially meat); one only has to wander around the local mall and observe the obesity to see that. Or examine every label in the food market to see the ridiculous saturation with corn starch, corn syrup, etc. The point being that government propping of the corn industry, and a host of other agricultural pathways, is simply nonsensical; and can be cut drastically.

Furthermore, for those who bemoan the demise of the family farm, the Agricultural Bill is primarily a corporate subsidy of big conglomerates, little different than taxpayer largess to General Motors or Goldman Sachs.

The federal Agriculture complex is every bit as ripe for gutting as Education, HUD, and HHS. Decent food, its availability, its value, would not be a problem if federal agricultural subsidy was cut fifty percent or more; there are a multitude of more wholesome and efficient pathways than the government now promulgates. You can just bet there would be a lot of (agricultural) industry whining and repetition from Media sycophants who have never seen a farm.

Just another abyss of government interdiction with our tax money. But a far less recognized one.

Johnny Suntrade

30 posted on 11/11/2010 9:16:02 AM PST by jnsun (The Left: the need to manipulate others because of nothing productive to offer.)
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To: MichCapCon

Finally!


31 posted on 11/11/2010 9:25:38 AM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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additional:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2625404/posts


32 posted on 11/11/2010 3:40:18 PM PST by SunkenCiv (The 2nd Amendment follows right behind the 1st because some people are hard of hearing.)
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33 posted on 11/11/2010 3:42:08 PM PST by SunkenCiv (The 2nd Amendment follows right behind the 1st because some people are hard of hearing.)
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To: freekitty
It should. [Ethanol] really has few benefits.

Few?

Name one?

Aside from whiskey, of course...

34 posted on 11/11/2010 7:11:32 PM PST by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance on Parade)
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To: SunkenCiv
"•The Bum Rap on Biofuels"

The problem, of course, is the EPA which has even declared breath a pollutant.

Get the EPA and its political commissar, Carol "Director of Socialists International" Browner, in front of a House commission.

Ethanol subsidies are the result of EPA mandates/vehicle milage. I suppose the state extortion comes through the transportation department threat to withold highway funds if the state does not require ethanol blends.

yitbos

35 posted on 11/11/2010 11:12:56 PM PST by bruinbirdman ("Those who control language control minds." -- Ayn Rand)
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