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To: patlin

Don’t try to change the nature of the issue. It’s about you making statements against me which I have proven to you are baseless. It’s not about you expressing an opinion. So don’t try to wrap yourself around some 1st Amendment free speech mantle to try to escape your errors and try to make yourself some victim.


41 posted on 11/06/2010 10:04:33 PM PDT by Puzo1 (Ask the Right Questions to Get the Right Answers)
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To: Puzo1
The entire crux of this NBC issue is "jus soli" citizenship & the "Right of Expatriation". They are wholly incompatible. It is THAT SIMPLE, when the US adopted the ancient common law that every man, being born free, retains the right of expatriation, they in that on proclamation, renounced any form of feudal law of "jus soli" citizenship that existed in America. Vattel didn't invent this concept and it was NOT his works alone that define it as Wilson stated:

English law has its roots in Anglo-Saxon customs, which were too firmly established to be completely broken by the Norman Conquest and still form the basis of their common law today. In 1068, having at last reduced the country to submission, William set to work to establish a Roman government on a firm and lasting basis. Roman law, the legal system of ancient Rome is now the basis of civil law, one of the main European legal systems...You will be pleased to hear, that, with regard to this as well as to many other subjects, we have renewed, in our governments, the principles and the practice of the ancient Saxons.

In ancient time, England & Germany were one. Now fast forward to 1868: US State Dept & US House documents, otherwise publ. as Executive documents...By United States Congress House

Saxon citizrnship 1868

PERIOD! END OF ARGUMENT! You make things so complicated, you can't even keep it straight sometimes.

44 posted on 11/06/2010 11:45:37 PM PDT by patlin (Ignorance is Bliss for those who choose to wear rose colored glasses)
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To: Puzo1

Mr. Apuzzo: You should not waste your time debating Patlin and her DoppelGanger user ids which seem to magically follow her around the internet seconding anything she says. She seems to enjoy building herself and her annoited ones up at the expense of pushing others down and putting others down. She does it repeatedly. I have heard she is Leo Donofrio’s sister. Not sure about that. I have also heard she is a lawyer but not a practicing one. Not sure about that either. But what I do know from observing her in this site is that she likes to crow a lot about her alleged contributions at the expense of putting down the contributions of others. She likes to talk the talk but not walk the walk. She wants credit all the time but gives none herself to other major contributors and battlers in the legal arena such as you Mr. Apuzzo. If she was so knowledgeable about the issues why has she not retained a lawyer, if not one herself, such as her much admired Leo Donofrio or someone else to take her case, in the last year and filed her own case against Obama to help defend the constitution instead of bragging in a blog about how much she has done all the while tearing down the work of others who are actively fighting in the court system to save the republic. Probably Leo Donofrio would not take a case from her anyway even if she asked since he too likely knows that she is all talk on a blog and no walk the walk in real life.


46 posted on 11/07/2010 4:09:38 AM PST by ramjet767
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