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To: Greenperson

jamese777 said, “Mr. and Mrs. Barack Obama were permanently domiciled in Honolulu at the time of their son’s birth at 7:24 p.m. on Friday, August 4, 1961 and when two birth announcements appeared in the local Honolulu newspapers on the following Sunday and Monday, August 13th and 14th, 1961.

Wong Kim Ark’s parents eventually returned to China and Barack Obama’s fathr eventually returned to Africa. That has no bearing on the citizenship status of the child.”

Oh, James. Where to begin? Really, I must wonder what planet you live on.

Who exactly WERE Mr. and Mrs. Barack Obama? Was the “son” that was announced the person who now sits as POTUS?

If this father in the announcement is the father who the POTUS wrote about in his fictional autobiography, then Barack Hussein Obama (the elder) was NOT permanently domicled in the USA. In fact, contemporaneous city directories prove that he wasn’t even domiciled at the address listed in those announcements. Barack Hussein Obama (the elder) was here on a student visa. That’s a temporary visa. NOT in any way considered a resident of the US, much less a permanent one. As for his wife, IF she is the person known as Stanley Ann Dunham, that person spent most of her adult life overseas. In Indonesia, Pakistan, Kenya, elsewhere in Southeast Asia.


I live on planet Earth and I prefer dealing with facts, not suppositions, rumors and innuendos.

Here are some facts:
Isn’t it strange that in 72 adjudicated lawsuits challenging Barack Hussein Obama II’s eligibility to be President of the United States, no court has ruled him to be ineligible and that includes eight different appeals to the Supreme Court of the United States: Berg v Obama, Beverly v The Federal Elections Commission, Craig v US, Donofrio v Wells, Hebert, et. al. v Obama, Lightfoot v Bowen, Schneller v Cortes or Wrotnowski v Bysiewicz.

It’s also rather strange that if having two American citizen parents was required in order to be a natural born citizen that Vice President Cheney would count and certify Barack Hussein Obama II’s 365 Electoral College votes and not one of the 535 members of Congress would object to that certification, as it was their legal right to do.

Its also strange that an acknowledged constitutional scholar like Chief Justice John Roberts would agree to administer the Oath of Office to a person who wasn’t constitutionally eligible to hold the office.

Barack Hussein Obama II HIMSELF wrote a book in 1995 that went on to become a number one bestseller called “Dreams From My Father” in which he detailed at great length his father’s life, birth in Kenya and his father’s citizenship in both the British Empire and Colonies and the new nation of Kenya. Not one Chief Elections Official in any of the 50 states plus the District of Columbia has EVER questioned or challenged Obama’s right to be on the ballot in any state.
In fact, in the state of Arizona, Barack Hussein Obama II had to sign a pledge on an official state document that he was a natural born United States citizen. He did sign that pledge and no court has challenged his natural born citizen status.
Here’s a link to a scanned image of that statement:
http://moniquemonicat.files.wordpress.com/2008/12/arizona-election-nomination-papers-barack-obama-signed-statement-he-is-a-natural-born-citizen2.pdf

So if Obama signed an official government document stating that he is natural born and eligible to be on the ballot as a presidential candidate, it is even stranger that no state has at least initiated a grand jury investigation and subpoenaed documents and compelled witnesses to testify.
Obama announced his candidacy for the presidency in February of 2007 and he’s been the 44th President of the United States for a year and nine months now.


69 posted on 10/13/2010 3:50:47 PM PDT by jamese777
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To: jamese777

In response to a claim by jamese777 that “Mr. and Mrs. Barack Obama were permanently domiciled in Honolulu at the time of their son’s birth at 7:24 p.m. on Friday, August 4, 1961 and when two birth announcements appeared in the local Honolulu newspapers on the following Sunday and Monday, August 13th and 14th, 1961,” I asked him questions which he declined to answer.

Who exactly WERE the Mr. and Mrs. Barack Obama who had a son in Honolulu? No mother’s name was given. No child’s name was given. Barack Obama was given as the father’s name, but he could NOT be the person who’s allegedly the father of the POTUS because contemporaneous city directories (actual documents, published over 40 years ago) prove that the African exchange student known as Barack (or Barak, or Barrack) Hussein Obama (a temporary visitor to the US, here for college, not to set up a permanent residency in this country) DID NOT LIVE AT THAT ADDRESS!! This is fact. Documented fact. The man the POTUS claims as his father had his own apartment where he lived alone. So it’s questionable if this couple named in the announcement are the parents of the POTUS.

Once again, instead of responding to the actual questions, jamese777 brings up a bunch of irrelevancies about the lawsuits, Dick Cheney, and John Roberts. Anything to avoid addressing the mysterious discrepancies in the fictional biography. jamese777 said this:

“I prefer dealing with facts, not suppositions, rumors and innuendos. Barack Hussein Obama II HIMSELF wrote a book in 1995.”

Whether or not the POTUS wrote that book himself or whether Bill Ayers wrote/ghostwrote/edited/finished it for him, the FACT remains that in the beginning, Obama admits that the book is nothing more than historical FICTION. Dramatized narrative. In other words, fantasy, myth, what Barry “dreams” happened. He admitted this. It’s fictionalized history, if there’s ANY history to be found in it.

jamese777 brings up that Obama signed a sworn statement that he is eligible for the presidency. That may eventually cause him more problems than he ever imagined.


78 posted on 10/14/2010 7:36:52 AM PDT by Greenperson
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