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DUmmie FUnnies 10-11-10 ("Why do we still celebrate Columbus day?")
DUmmie FUnnies ^ | October 11, 2010 | DUmmies and PJ-Comix

Posted on 10/11/2010 7:37:34 PM PDT by PJ-Comix

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To: PJ-Comix

I always call Indians Indians because of the term’s historical context. Everyone knows they are not from India.


41 posted on 10/11/2010 9:05:08 PM PDT by luvbach1 (Stop Barry now. He can't help himself.)
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To: Army Air Corps
Never mind that "Indian" was derived from the phrase "Pueblo en Dios" ("en Dios" became contracted and altered to "Indios") and has nothing to do with India...

Hmmm, you may be right but never heard of that. So Columbus did not think he'd reached India when he made landfall?

42 posted on 10/11/2010 9:08:37 PM PDT by luvbach1 (Stop Barry now. He can't help himself.)
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To: Choose Ye This Day

Okay, I cannot find the specific book right now. In my years in university, I heard both versions with proof for both accounts. Since we were not alive at the time, who knows which version is correct.


43 posted on 10/11/2010 9:10:33 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: luvbach1

Oh, he thought he reached some islands off the coast of India alright, but there is some dispute as to whether “Indian” in the American sense came from the Spanish word for the Indies or whether it came from a corruption of “Pueblo en Dios”.


44 posted on 10/11/2010 9:13:01 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: PJ-Comix

Well, one reason to celebrate Columbus Day is because without the explorers, we’d still be subjects in Europe. OK, if it wasn’t for Columbus, it could have been somebody else who opened up the New World around 1500 or so, but in our timeline and history, it is Christopher Columbus. We have too many dolts in the world.


45 posted on 10/11/2010 9:14:10 PM PDT by Nowhere Man (General James Mattoon Scott, where are you when we need you? We need a regime change.)
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To: Army Air Corps

I’d love it if it were true. It makes sense when you hear it. But in all my years of speaking Spanish I never put that together. I’d be interested in seeing it if you locate the book. Thanks.


46 posted on 10/11/2010 9:16:25 PM PDT by Choose Ye This Day (Patriotism: looking out for yourself by looking out for your country. ~ Calvin Coolidge)
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To: PJ-Comix

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47 posted on 10/11/2010 9:17:56 PM PDT by Choose Ye This Day (Patriotism: looking out for yourself by looking out for your country. ~ Calvin Coolidge)
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To: Choose Ye This Day

I’ll continue to look for it. It sticks in my mind because I had learned from kindergarten on to high school that American Indians were called “Indians” because the word was derived from the Spanish word for the Indies. Then, I get to university and hear an alternate version.


48 posted on 10/11/2010 9:19:48 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: Choose Ye This Day

Here we go:
First of off, the supposed phrase is “una gente en Dios” (my mistake for a not remembering it correctly). Secondly, skimming through Columbus’ diaries for the period, I see no mention of this phrase. So, this particular word origin theory appears highly suspect to me and likely wrong.


49 posted on 10/11/2010 9:31:53 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: Army Air Corps

Bummer. It sounded good—very plausible.

I remember reading some of Columbus’ diaries back when I was in college. Does he call them Indios right from the start? Or does he use some other term?


50 posted on 10/11/2010 9:47:54 PM PDT by Choose Ye This Day (Patriotism: looking out for yourself by looking out for your country. ~ Calvin Coolidge)
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To: Choose Ye This Day

I recall that he made first reference to the land and references to the inhabitants of the islands came a bit later.


51 posted on 10/11/2010 9:56:15 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: Choose Ye This Day

Well, that is why we come here - to have fun and learn.


52 posted on 10/11/2010 10:02:21 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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According to the Straight Dope, they were using the term Indie from the get-go:

http://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/1966/does-indian-derive-from-columbuss-description-of-native-americans-as-una-gente-in-dios

Columbus carried with him a passport from Ferdinand and Isabella of Spain, written in Latin and dispatching him “toward the regions of India” (ab partes Indie) on their behalf.

... The original manuscript has not survived, but a printed copy made shortly after its receipt has. In the first paragraph Columbus says “In 33 days I passed from the Canary Islands to the Indies” (en 33 días pasé de las islas de Canaria a las Indias). His first reference to the inhabitants comes in the second paragraph: “To the first [island] which I found I gave the name San Salvador . . . the Indians call it Guanahaní” (A la primera que yo hallé puse nombre San Salvador . . . los Indios la llaman Guanahaní). In all he makes six references to India or the Indies, and four to Indios. Nowhere in the letter does he use a phrase resembling una gente in Dios.


53 posted on 10/11/2010 10:03:53 PM PDT by Choose Ye This Day (Patriotism: looking out for yourself by looking out for your country. ~ Calvin Coolidge)
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To: Choose Ye This Day

It seems this “una gente en Dios” is sometimes taught in Indian schools, to boost tribal identity and pride. “We’re not called Indians by mistake. We’re called that because our people were so good and godlike.” Something along those lines, I imagine.


54 posted on 10/11/2010 10:06:50 PM PDT by Choose Ye This Day (Patriotism: looking out for yourself by looking out for your country. ~ Calvin Coolidge)
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To: Choose Ye This Day

Thanks. I recall his description of the land coming first, but I did not know about the passport. Good to know.


55 posted on 10/11/2010 10:07:20 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: Choose Ye This Day
Here is an article on the subject from David Yeagley (aka Bad Eagle).
56 posted on 10/11/2010 10:09:07 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: PJ-Comix

The Indians I know would prefer to be called a playoff team, but it hasn’t worked out that way lately....


57 posted on 10/12/2010 12:29:19 AM PDT by E Rocc (The Census form says to use blue or black ink. Methinks *red* ink is more apropos.)
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To: Choose Ye This Day

The DUmmies are just $10 away from Democrats retaing control of the House!


58 posted on 10/12/2010 4:59:31 AM PDT by Incorrigible (If I lead, follow me; If I pause, push me; If I retreat, kill me.)
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To: PJ-Comix
The term 'Indians' for native peoples is somewhat offensive at the least

[Except to the Indians themselves. What they really hate is the PC term, "Native Americans."]

That is one thing for sure, they hate being referred to as Native Americans. FWIW, DUmmies have very small minds to worry about stuff like this on a regular basis.

59 posted on 10/12/2010 5:32:04 AM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (Remember in November. Clean the house on Nov. 2. / Progressive is a PC word for liberal democrat.)
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To: mylife
Indian fry bread is really boring!

Then you're not making it right. I haven't made any in years, but done right, it's delish.

60 posted on 10/12/2010 5:40:12 AM PDT by nina0113
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