Nice dodge. It was your argument that a hard copy of Obama's alleged COLB would be legal evidence in court. Now you're trying to brag that it doesn't have to be shown, which undermines your previous argument. If he has legal evidence, let's see it. He doesn't have to fight showing it to a court.
From a legal prespective, yes it is.
Dude, you're arguing with yourself now. You just copied your own reply to me and argued against it.
Sure it's a record, but it is only credible if you can show these MP's are in a position to know anything about his birth.
Well, no, that's not the only thing that makes them credible.
No, but they can be very easily blamed on sloppy journalists who didn't do their research. Given that none of these journalists ever cited a source, these reports have no credibility.
If you throw them out, then you also need to throw out the journalists who claim Obama was born in Hawaii who didn't have a credible source. The difference is that most of the latter claims came AFTER Obama was in a position to benefit from the claim.
Sure there is. Pictures of the document have been posted online, and Hawaii's public health director confirms that the state's records show he was born in Hawaii.
The pictures have not been confirmed as representing a valid or legal COLB by the issuing agency. Chiyome Fukino has refused to say so despite having statutory authority ... and she did NOT confirm that any state records show that Obama was born in Hawaii. She referred to unspecified records; not any specific STATE record.
LOL. There you go again, taking the Minor case out of context. Do I have to remind you, for the fiftieth time, of what the next sentence says?
It's not out of context, mister argues-with-himself. The next sentence doesn't change anything, other than the court REJECTING any other definition as applying to NBC. Further, the court used that definition to make its plaintiff a natural born citizen, which was affirmed by the WKA decision.
Dude, you're arguing with yourself now. You just copied your own reply to me and argued against it.
Hahahaaaahaaha.....Now that's funny.
That is correct. A COLB constitutes prima facie evidence before any court of the facts stated therein. It says so right on the form.
Now you're trying to brag that it doesn't have to be shown, which undermines your previous argument.
First of all, I wasn't bragging. I was merely stating a fact: the form has not had to be shown in any court.
Now how exactly does that undermine my other argument? The fact that no court, to date, has asked to see the form is in no way inconsistent with the fact that the form would by accepted as legal proof by any court asks to see it in the future.
If he has legal evidence, let's see it.
He's allowed photos of it to be posted on the internet. How else do you expect him to show it to you? Do you expect him to send to you and every other birther your own personal, certified hard copy of it?
> He doesn't have to fight showing it to a court.
He's not.
Well, no, that's not the only thing that makes them credible.
Okay, so what, in your mind, makes these Kenyan MP's credible sources of information about Obama's birth?
If you throw them out, then you also need to throw out the journalists who claim Obama was born in Hawaii who didn't have a credible source.
IMHO, Hawaii's director of public health is a credible source.
The pictures have not been confirmed as representing a valid or legal COLB by the issuing agency.
No, but the location of birth listed in the said document has been confirmed by state officials.
Chiyome Fukino has refused to say so despite having statutory authority ...
Fukino refused to confirm the authenticity of the image because it is simply impossible to authenticate any document by looking at an image of it on the internet. She would need to hold a hard copy in her hand.
However, it is possible to verify that the information contained in the photograph is consistent with what is in the state's records, and Fukino did just that. I'm not sure what else you expect her to do.
and she did NOT confirm that any state records show that Obama was born in Hawaii. She referred to unspecified records; not any specific STATE record.
Now you're just playing with semantics. It is obvious to any rational person reading the press release the she was referring to vital records maintained by the state. If that's not a state record, nothing is.
It's not out of context, mister argues-with-himself. The next sentence doesn't change anything,
Okay, Mr. OutofContext, if that's really true, then why don't you post the next two sentences? Hmmmm?