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To: 10Ring

Correct, I should have been more clear.

The SEC does have a big influence on whether the DOJ brings criminal charges, starting with how the SEC handles the settlement of civil charges. When I say “no criminal charges were brought” - I meant that the SEC didn’t refer cases to the DOJ or USAO for prosecution. The DOJ (especially) seems far too occupied recently with chasing terrorists.... and then letting them go. But that’s not an issue the SEC can solve. Referring cases is an issue they can solve.

If we see the phrase “without admission of wrongdoing” inserted into the mea culpa letters by offenders to the SEC when they make their settlements, that’s a clue that the SEC won’t be making criminal referrals to the DOJ. We saw a variant of this turn of phrase, “without admitting or denying wrongdoing” in the auction rate securities settlements. If there was a case which was cut-and-dry for criminal enforcement of wire fraud charges, the ARS mess was it. They were sold as “safe as cash” - and there is nothing in the market that is “as safe as cash” other than cash. Once someone uses that phrase “safe as cash” on something that isn’t cash, the DOJ should be called in and wire fraud charges brought immediately. It is that simple.

The SEC finally started showing a little spine when they took on Goldman this past spring, but the size of the settlement was still far too small. If the SEC wants their civil enforcement actions to sting, they have to make the monetary settlements so large that they affect the bonus structure of the i-banks.

That means amounts in the 10’s of billions.


18 posted on 09/19/2010 11:46:24 AM PDT by NVDave
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To: NVDave
You're absolutely spot-on about chasing terrorists and taking the eye-off-the-ball on financial fraud. Unfortunately most people DO believe an SEC case/settlement is somehow the end. It's just asinine that we can't pursue terrorists and financial fraud, but that's our gov't again.

Even if there was some kind of Patriot Act for financial fraud (where the SEC would actually work with DOJ, etc. to bring civil and criminal charges), you just know it wouldn't work. Witness the underwear/Xmas bomber, etc. The agencies still don't really talk to each other when it comes to terrorism.

I might as well rant a little more. I had to send in a Curio & Relic License renewal (an FFL for collectors). I probably had to surrender more info to the BATFE and my local PD than the panty bomber needed to enter the U.S. or JPM needed to sell their ARS. Still steamed. /rant

19 posted on 09/19/2010 6:51:27 PM PDT by 10Ring
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