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To: Neil E. Wright

I can’t believe how childish you all are. Technically, he is correct..It doesn’t matter how many conservative people run IF WE DON’T WIN. We took a sure thing and we put it in a position we will probably lose. All Krauthammer is doing is pointing out the obvious...Don’t shoot the messenger. As much as I hope she wins...my gut is telling me we just gave up any chance of getting the Senate back. And please don’t tell me it doesn’t matter if it has a few RINO’s...it does and you’re being very disingenuous to say it doesn’t.


3 posted on 09/16/2010 10:20:01 PM PDT by Hildy
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To: Hildy
No more compromise. No more equivocation. No more dilution. No more weaseling. No more pro-gun control. No more pro-abortion. No more Olympia Snowes. No more Arlen Sphincters. No more Susan Collinses. No more Larry "wide stance" Craigs. No more Duke Cunninghams. No more Bushes. No more McCains. No more Viagra Conservatives who need "help" to stay true to principle. No more empty holsters. No more negotiation. No more retreat. Not one step back!

Sorry Hildy, the time for "compromise" is gone! This is a WAR for the freedoms that generations before us bought with their very lives. When you "compromise" with EVIL, the EVIL wins, everytime!

It's about

★ FREEDOM! ★

★ Estimated Value – PRICELESS! ★

7 posted on 09/16/2010 10:31:01 PM PDT by Neil E. Wright (An OATH is FOREVER OathKeeper III We are EVERYWHERE)
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To: Hildy
I can’t believe how childish you all are. Technically, he is correct..It doesn’t matter how many conservative people run IF WE DON’T WIN.

I take a different view and have been for years regarding the GOP. A few more conservative candidate victories and the party establishment will have to take the base seriously.

Chess is played more than one move ahead at a time. These recent conservative victories are the first move. It will be up to the conservative movement to make sure the rest of their moves are as effective and keep up the game.

What some call "winning" has been nothing more than the GOP establishment looking a whole lot like Democrats. The mantra of "you are going to cost the party the election" does not wash with me.

8 posted on 09/16/2010 10:31:13 PM PDT by gunsequalfreedom (Conservative is not a label of convenience.)
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To: Hildy

Here’s the problem with your argument, if we have liberal Republicans instead of Marxist Democrats all we’re doing is forestalling the inevitable. If we don’t run Conservatives we’ll never have Conservatives in government no matter what their party. It’s their philosophy and character that counts, not their party affiliation.


10 posted on 09/16/2010 10:34:46 PM PDT by JMS
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To: Hildy

I agree with you about the need to win BUT, the voters have spoken and it does no good for Rove, Krauthammer, Bill O’Reilly to come out and keep attacking after the primary is over - Do they thnk that O’Donnell will quit the race because of their attacks?
And Krauthammer calling Palin & DeMint irresponsible with their endorsements - what good can come of that ?
Send your complaints to the 53.6% of the Republican primary voters in Delaware.


12 posted on 09/16/2010 10:35:27 PM PDT by PMAS
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To: Hildy

There is really no doubt in my mind that she will win. The game has changed and the establishment hasn’t figured it out yet. We will see who ends up looking childish in the end.


15 posted on 09/16/2010 10:40:44 PM PDT by tatown (Obama is Kenyan for "I make love to a woman that looks like Patrick Ewing")
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To: Hildy
So Charles and his DC elite buddies like Rove and Kristol peddle a well coordinated non stop vile personal smears AGAINST a DC outsider and then complain the victim of their vicious attacks is damaged goods and that's okay ??
17 posted on 09/16/2010 10:46:06 PM PDT by ncalburt (e)
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To: Hildy

“I can’t believe how childish you all are ... And please don’t tell me it doesn’t matter if it has a few RINO’s...it does and you’re being very disingenuous to say it doesn’t.”

Actually, the “childish” attitude is to petulantly gripe about missing out (potentially) on a single Senate seat, when there is a far bigger war going on. Look at what has happened, just in the last 24 hours:

The Democrats are now officially scared, in that they see that the Tea Party movement is growing in confidence and size (Chris Matthews realized this, MoveOn now trying to figure out which incumbents to abandon, Coons crawling over to Daily Kos to solicit money — these are all signs of fear).

The Republican establishment is officially panicking, as they see that they cannot control this wildfire. O’Donnell raising over a million dollars in the time it would take the Establishment Republicans to raise a minuscule fraction of that. The paltry $50k that they gave O’Donnell is a stark reminder of how irrelevant they have become.

DeMint’s PAC is now clearly more important than the NRSC.

The New York GOP is in absolute chaos. How many Senate seats has that group given up over the years, through their ineptitude, and apathy? A heck of a lot more than one, that’s for sure.

Trading a single Senate seat (unlikely, IMO, since O’Donnell has a good chance of winning, but either way) for a changing of the guard throughout the Republican party is a no-brainer.

This O’Donnell victory has poured gasoline on a raging fire, a fire which is the most potent political force seen in generations. And you are worried that the Delaware Senate seat is not going to be held by Castle???

There is a much bigger picture here.


27 posted on 09/16/2010 11:03:13 PM PDT by jjsheridan5 (Step 1: defeat the Republican establishment; Step 2 is impossible without finishing step 1)
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To: Hildy; onyx

Hildy, it was not a sure thing.

Castle was not a sure thing to win the Senate seat. After all, why vote for Dem with an “R” when you can vote for the real thing?

Do you think Joe Biden would come here to DE and stump for his old pal Castle over Coons?

That is the flaw in Rove, Krauthammer’s and your argument.

This year, EVERYONE in DE is facing a pocketbook issue,and the question in the campgin is who will you trust to look at for your issues: a full blown Communist wealth distributionist like Chris Coons, or a small government fiscally responsible candidate like Christine O’Donnell.

I live here in DE and it is amazing to see the Indies and the Dems who are just waiting to vote for O’Donnell. One Dem is a friend of mine—she actually sent O’Donnell money.

That is what the Beltway pundits don’t get.

And shame on them—with 46 days until Nov. 2, every day they waste pounding on little Christine instead of going after the bad guys is throwing away the opportunity to gain what they say they are pining for— a GOP majority.


29 posted on 09/16/2010 11:06:19 PM PDT by exit82 (Democrats are the enemy of freedom. Sarah Palin is our Esther.)
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To: Hildy

We are all childish because we have a different position on Christine’s victory.

A victory thanks to Castle is not much different than the Scott Brown victory. A thrill for five minutes and then pain for the next five years.

America is doomed if we don’t get these professional whores the hell out of our party.


32 posted on 09/16/2010 11:27:56 PM PDT by Carley (For those who fought for it, freedom has a flavor the protected will never know.)
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To: Hildy
There is nothing inevitable about O'Donnell losing.

Castle was a total waste and if you have a Castle in the Senate, it wouldn't be worth having the majority.

40 posted on 09/17/2010 1:21:14 AM PDT by fortheDeclaration (When the wicked beareth rule, the people mourn (Pr.29:2))
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To: Hildy
Castle was pro abortion, anti-gun rights, pro bailout,
pro gay marriage, pro Cap and trade, pro card check and
took his agenda from Soros’s Center for American Progress.

Any conservative that votes for that has no brains.

Sorry, we held our nose and voted for McCain and where
did it get us?

The fault is squarely lad at the feet of the GOP.
If they did not like Christine they should have ran
some one else.

41 posted on 09/17/2010 2:02:50 AM PDT by DaveTesla (You can fool some of the people some of the time......)
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To: Hildy

We took a sure thing and we put it in a position we will probably lose.
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Castle doesn’t represent the “we” here. Government is too big for a “tie” to be a win. We need small government conservatives in office or our country will be destroyed. Big government Republicans are part of the problem, even if they occassionally make a vote that conservatives approve of, because our deficits are so huge and the actions of the Federal government so arbitrary that our survival is at stake. The hour is that late. Just because someone is labled “Republican” doesn’t mean they will vote to reduce the size of spending . . . and if we don’t do that then riots and currency destruction is our future. Castle was at best a tie. It’s better to have a chance to win than a guaranteed loss. You aren’t seeing and feeling something that most people are right now. This isn’t party politics. The nation itself is at stake. The Republican left has been a problem, not just the Democratic party. I am not sure we make it through 2 more years of Obama safely even if we have a conservative Congress. If we have McCain’s and Castle’s populating Congress we just destroy the spirit of the resistance to big government and make it harder to persuade the “middle” that there is a difference that matters between the parties and the future for the country.


42 posted on 09/17/2010 2:07:35 AM PDT by November 2010
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To: Hildy

Better to have a real Democrat than a RINO.


43 posted on 09/17/2010 3:50:52 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed, and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Hildy

They (including Rove) are now hurting the cause. It is destructive to put down our candidates after they have won. He needs to help get to the finish line. _They are helping make the campaign adds for the opposition.


44 posted on 09/17/2010 4:34:13 AM PDT by opentalk
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To: Hildy

Yes, you have to win to do anything. On the other hand, some wins aren’t worth having. Hasd castle won, we’d have had a “Republican” would be the “bipartisan” vote the Democrats need for political cover for anything they want to do.

And if one RINO crosses that line, the Maine sisters, Graham, and company might very well follow.

What a lot of the doomsayers are missing is that this is a “sea change” election coming up. The likely voters are very, very angry at Democrats and want to punish them. This is a referendum on Obama, Pelosi, and Reid, and they aren’t going to do well.

To that extent, for this one election, it matters far less that Republican challengers be “someone who can win” than that they run against the Democrats’ record. (Normally, I’m not a fan of “anybody but xxx”, but that’s the mood out there right now.) Why not go for the brass ring and purge out the “squishes” and liberals? Get some young, conservative blood in there, and preferably into DeMint’s camp?


60 posted on 09/17/2010 6:22:33 AM PDT by kevkrom (De-fund Obamacare in 2011, repeal in 2013!)
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To: Hildy
"As much as I hope she wins...my gut is telling me we just gave up any chance of getting the Senate back."

If we were to take the Senate back with Castle-type RINOs, the balance of power would lie with those same RINOs - I'm thinkin' Gang of 14 multiplied by 50. We could all watch with breathless anticipation, while McCain "reaches out" to compromise on amnesty, cap and trade, healthcare and so much more.

The worst part would be knowing we followed the Party and voted for the a-holes who sold us out.

66 posted on 09/17/2010 8:25:27 PM PDT by Flag_This (Real presidents don't bow.)
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