Posted on 09/16/2010 7:56:32 PM PDT by flowerplough
Your post is spot on Carolyn. To be taken seriously, we must dress the part. The time for attention-getting costumes is over. We have the attention now.
It’s roll up the sleeves and 100% be adults now. This is serious, serious stuff. Give the 0bama media no quarter.
The time for costumes is AFTER we win the mid-terms on election night.
I know I brought it up. It is because there is a lot of emotional reaction going on this week and not a lot of thoughtful discussion. Its easier to claim Beck as a RINO than to discuss whether his idea is right or wrong. Its easier to claim that Beck is trying to control the Tea Party than to plan out strategy.
He is foremost a teacher of the Founding and our Constitution. If you have a problem with that then state it.
Exactly. There are way too many people that want to act like Beck is attacking them rather than looking at his criticism as a strategy and debating its merits.
I don’t think he means to be totalitarian in what he says.
And I don’t necessarily agree that all costumes are bad. But it isn’t a re-enactment, it’s a political rally.
Should you hang Obama in effigy? Should anything go?
If you have a sign that can be perceived as racist...you are going to be on all the alphabets. If you have a sign that can be perceived as violent...ditto.
If you have a sign that has gross errors....you’ll wind up EVERYWHERE online.
Should tea partiers take any advice at all?
If *I* am at a tea party and I see a sign that seems racist...I will probably say something to the person with the sign and I will move...but that doesn’t mean the sign isn’t present at the rally.
If anything Beck has the interests of the movement at heart with this advice.
No one is suggesting you should wear a uniform. Just dress like you normally do.
If you were the CEO of an oil company, would you hire someone as an executive if they showed up in oily clothes with a hard hat on because they had passion?
If you have ever worked in business you know that in order to move up to management you have to dress the part and get respect — education alone doesn’t cut it — same goes here with the TP movement, it is time for people to garner respect, the media hates us and a lot of “normal” people still mock us because of the crazy, outlandish, stuff the media shows... I know this is a fact, believe it or don’t believe it, but we are in big trouble in this country, these are serious times and we have got to start taking our role in this movement seriously.
Now we switch to the straw man. Let's put it this way -- if you don't know what is or isn't "normal" without someone else telling you, then I think it would probably be better if you avoided signs and costumes.
Name calling (freaks comment) is such a dignified statement.
No, it's an accurate reflection of how the media is going to try to portray you if you attend a conservative protest. They will swing their cameras past the hoards of normal middle-class people to find the one person that fits their narrative and that's what millions of people will see on the evening news and their local newspaper.
How much energy was sapped out of the conservative movement during the last election cycle by one person who shouted "kill him"? Why are leftists talking about infiltrating conservative protests with racist and extremist signs? Because they know the media will feature them. In fact, infiltrators have been used in left-wing propaganda videos. They are already doing this and have been doing it for decades.
So now, dressing as Betsy Ross make one a freak.
While I think dressing up as Betsy Ross or a Founding Father is relatively harmless, unless it's Halloween or a costume party, wearing costumes isn't something people normally do. It's odd.
I say this as someone who is a science fiction fan and knows people in the SCA, people who do Live Action role-playing, and people who do reenactments. I own a Medieval tunic that I bought to attend an SCA wedding in costume. There are plenty of very nice people in all of those hobbies who dress up in costumes and have a lot of fun but I'd be fooling myself if I didn't understand that a lot of people perceive them as being a bit strange because of it. It's why they are fodder for sitcoms and comedy shows.
But I'd really like people to answer, what's the purpose of wearing a costume? What's the purpose of protesting? Why are you there and who are you there for? It all has a point, doesn't it?
I wouldn’t want to live in your world.
Nobody lives in the world you are imagining, but that's typical of straw man arguments. They describe positions that nobody actually espouses.
Whine to someone else
“The Republican Party is full of well dressed men and women... men wear suits - women too. Why does the tea party have to imitate that?”
This is about people who have NO CONFIDENCE in themselves or their fellow conservatives. Don’t be that person. It’s not the clothes you wear or the color of your skin or the sign you carry. It’s the will to follow your heart.
If you noticed, the Tea Party is trying to work within the framework of an existing party — the GOP — to save this country, These are serious times, serious people dress the part. This isn’t a Sunday picnic... not by a longshot
OK Mark :)
What original idea did he take from someone and use as his own without crediting it?
I said it once and I’ll say it again. I do NOT want to live in your world.
Some of us actually want to be taken seriously, there is absolutely no reason to dress up in a big honkin Reagan or Bush or statue costume.. those are for Halloween.
The whiners are sinking with the great ship Castle.
I think plenty of conservatives and moderates consider Lady Gaga a freak and/or a clown. Do you take anything Lady Gaga says about politics seriously? Does anyone, other than her die-hard fans?
No one is telling you not to. They are saying its a bad idea.
No, I feel fine addressing you.
How big is that wall around your house?
“If you were the CEO of an oil company, would you hire someone as an executive if they showed up in oily clothes with a hard hat on because they had passion?”
What a hollow, empty comment.
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