First, the receipt for payment for a copy of a vital record, I was told is not maintained nor part of the vital record.
“However, according to butterdezillion’s research, the state will not reveal the legal status of a BC because it’s a “protected disclosure.” So they cannot tell you if Obama does or does not have an amended BC.”
I didn’t request his amended birth certificate. I requested his UIPA request to access his own record and there was NO precedent for that. Until I got a ruling on appeal, UIPA requests were subject to disclosure. The idea that they are now part of a vital records was invented with my request.
However, what you are referring to is called the glomar response. It goes like this: “access to records you requested, if any, is denied.” This is another response I have received several times.
They did not use the glomar response for this particular request and when I asked for confirmation I was told my request for copies was “denied in it’s entirety.”
Question my understanding all you want, that’s totally fine with me. However, I have had seven confirmations before and after the filing of my UIPA request that the DOH had to tell me if the records existed. Joesting told me herself twice, BEFORE I even filed it, long before she found herself ruling on the appeal.
At this point, I have satisfied myself and that’s the best I can do.
Yes, I’m familiar with the glomar. IIRC, when you started down this path, Okubo wasn’t following proper procedure. It seemed like she didn’t understand the formality of a UIPA request, so I don’t put very much weight into the fact that she didn’t use the glomar in that instance.
I realize you believe that Obama has an amended BC and I’m not trying to convince you otherwise. My comments about the amended BC are mainly to provide another perspective to those reading this thread. I won’t change butter’s mind either.