“Bigotry aside,”
LoL so now your calling me a racist? typical..
You know your becoming more and more like your democratic brethren every day.
“let me point out that you ignored the question entirely. Is it your contention that the colonies peacefully and legally seceded, as you claim the Southern states did? And that the British response to that formed an illegal and unprovoked invasion of a sovereign nation, as you claim Lincoln did?”
From my legalistic point of view the answer to both your question is yes. Was that not clear in my full explanation not the snip you quoted?
“For what? For your failed second rebellion, of course. Would it be worth it for you?”
For freedom and Constitutional government, yes absolute.
The thing about human liberty that you MUST come to understand is that you can’t keep it suppressed forever. Crush it with the hand of force and you will only buy time before it invulnerably rises again.
The Reason for this fact is intrinsic in the human spirit. The natural resentment of injury, and demand for liberty.
We now have the technology to do this, and the experience of the failures of our 2nd rebellion to know how to fight this war. While I can’t say when we will rise again for many reasons that should be obvious to even you. I can tell you that it will either happen when you are least able or willing to stop it.
To be perfectly clear I of course speak not of independents but the cause of liberty for which independents is sometimes required to secure.
The Union MUST be a better deal then independents for it to be justified in its existences.
We the people aut not to be wasting our time, money, and freedom on a government(union) which is doing more harm to our life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness, then good.
Thats the real bottom line that you need to accept.
Well I wouldn't know about the racist part. But your bigotry against Yankees was duly noted.
From my legalistic point of view the answer to both your question is yes. Was that not clear in my full explanation not the snip you quoted?
Lunatic point of view would be more accurate I think. Nobody in their right minds would consider the colonists actions legal, least of all the Founding Fathers themselves. They knew their actions were a rebellion. They knew that they would have to fight for their independence. They knew the penalties if they lost. The rebel leaders, on the other hand, were wrong in all their decisions. Especially the need to win part.
For freedom and Constitutional government, yes absolute.
Of course you would.
Which gives you what Hobbes described as "Bellum omnium contra omnes."