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To: fortheDeclaration

“The individual has a right to dissolve the government, but that is the right of revolution, not secession.”

James Madison said there was no difference between the right of revolution and secession.

http://press-pubs.uchicago.edu/founders/documents/v1ch3s14.html

PS The right of secession/revolution is not necessarily an individual right unless that individual has their own land independent of anyone else and is willing to remain confined to that land. (this is why borders are important)

Basically when you join a union you gain the right to leave your domain into other peoples domain under the terms of spesfic conditions.


154 posted on 09/07/2010 10:39:49 PM PDT by Monorprise
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To: Monorprise

Pure libertarian garbage. You could of course then decide to ignore any laws at all. Prostitution on your land is ok, slavery ok, etc.....

Individual rights t oyou equates to anarchism. Pure libertarian garbage.


159 posted on 09/07/2010 11:09:47 PM PDT by TheBigIf
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To: Monorprise
Yes, Madison said that because he believed the concept of secession was nonsense.

So, what the Confederates were doing were revolting (which they won't admit) but with no just cause, as did the colonies had.

169 posted on 09/08/2010 1:21:31 AM PDT by fortheDeclaration (When the wicked beareth rule, the people mourn (Pr.29:2))
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To: Monorprise
Basically when you join a union you gain the right to leave your domain into other peoples domain under the terms of spesfic conditions

The States joined a union, a more perfect union, that was to exist forever.

The Articles had that stated clearly.

The preamble and Article 1 established a perpetual union of the Thirteen Colonies under the style of the United States of America.

And the Constitution was to be a more perfect union, not less.

171 posted on 09/08/2010 1:26:54 AM PDT by fortheDeclaration (When the wicked beareth rule, the people mourn (Pr.29:2))
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