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Lincoln And The Death Of The Constitution
Wolves of Liberty ^ | 9/7/2010 | gjmerits

Posted on 09/07/2010 12:43:35 PM PDT by gjmerits

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To: Monorprise
You said:
“And anytime folks like you show up spouting your Southron bullshit and Lost Cause fairy tales, people like us will be here to oppose you.”

Actually no, I didn't say that but rest comfortable in the knowledge that this isn't your only mistake.

You should (sic) to suffer until you come to realize we are right, that the majority can be oppressive to the rights of the minority, and that no constitution which preports (sic) to protect the rights of the minority can mean a dam (sic) thing so long as that minority can’t withdraw from the “union” governed by the majority.

I recognize that scribbling....Noam Chomsky, is that you?!

421 posted on 09/09/2010 7:03:54 AM PDT by rockrr ("I said that I was scared of you!" - pokie the pretend cowboy)
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To: rockrr

“My efforts to suggest that the south might have had the moral authority in their quest had they sought secession legally are typically met with a “We don’t have to if we feeeeeeeeel that we are in the right to secede at any time and for any reason”.

Sound familiar?”

So a state leaving the union must get permission from the union even if they are being mistreated?

That is like an abused wife having to get permission from the abusing spouse. Are you still beating your wife?


422 posted on 09/09/2010 7:13:12 AM PDT by antisocial (Texas SCV - Deo Vindice)
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To: Idabilly
He suspended habeas corpus, arrested political dissenters, shut down newspapers, etc.

You have no idea of the issues behind that order, do you. All you do is misquote, quote out of context, lie and obfuscate. Tis the Southron way.

BTW, you are aware that Jeff Davis did all that and more, aren't you?

423 posted on 09/09/2010 7:37:44 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: antisocial
So a state leaving the union must get permission from the union even if they are being mistreated?

Yes. Unless you happen to be lawless cowards.

That is like an abused wife having to get permission from the abusing spouse. Are you still beating your wife?

No it isn't but thanks for revealing your favorite pastime.

424 posted on 09/09/2010 7:45:06 AM PDT by rockrr ("I said that I was scared of you!" - pokie the pretend cowboy)
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To: dangus

Earlier on this thread I posted a link to the entire book. All five volumes of it and, as much as you might wish it to be otherwise, not a single word in all of it modifies the very complete statement you are complaining about. Nothing!


425 posted on 09/09/2010 7:45:28 AM PDT by Bigun ("It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere." Voltaire)
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To: Idabilly
Excuse me: Bensel's study showed that JEFF DAVIS suspended habeas corpus more than AL, arrested more dissenters, confiscated more property, levied more taxes, and stole more property, as well as imposing censorship that the North never dreamed of. The South had the tyrant and the king, not the north.

I will repeat what I posted earlier that you apparently chose to ignore: in a head-to-head study of the abusive power of the UNION and the CONFEDERACY on 150 separate items covering habeas corpus, censorship, taxes, and confiscation, the UNION was the freer of the two societies and the CONFEDERACY was the most statist.

Try again.

426 posted on 09/09/2010 7:47:52 AM PDT by LS ("Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually." (Hendrix))
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To: antisocial
So a state leaving the union must get permission from the union even if they are being mistreated?

How were the Southern states being mistreated?

427 posted on 09/09/2010 7:50:16 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: antisocial
That is the most intelligent argument I have ever seen you make!

Thank you. I promise to keep a close eye on your posts to see if I can spot an intelligent argument from you as well.

428 posted on 09/09/2010 7:53:43 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: Non-Sequitur

If you do you may find him asking if you beat your wife as much as he does his...just sayin ;-)


429 posted on 09/09/2010 7:56:11 AM PDT by rockrr ("I said that I was scared of you!" - pokie the pretend cowboy)
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To: LS
Excuse me: Bensel's study showed

I'm sure it did. If Booth didn't make a Martyr out of your beloved, he'd be known as the tyrant. Which he was...

430 posted on 09/09/2010 8:28:00 AM PDT by Idabilly ("When injustice becomes law....Resistance becomes DUTY!!!!!)
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To: rockrr

“No it isn’t but thanks for revealing your favorite pastime.”

LOL my favorite pastime is insulting dammyankees, but most are too stupid to waste the time on.


431 posted on 09/09/2010 8:28:54 AM PDT by antisocial (Texas SCV - Deo Vindice)
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To: Non-Sequitur

“How were the Southern states being mistreated?”

By having to be in any proximity to even one dammyankee!


432 posted on 09/09/2010 8:32:02 AM PDT by antisocial (Texas SCV - Deo Vindice)
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To: antisocial

Let us know when you start.


433 posted on 09/09/2010 8:33:17 AM PDT by rockrr ("I said that I was scared of you!" - pokie the pretend cowboy)
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To: Non-Sequitur
The rest of us are here to fight fantasy with truth.

The rest of us are coven is here to fight fantasy truth with truth fantasy.

Fixed another one for ya. I can do this all day.

434 posted on 09/09/2010 8:44:22 AM PDT by cowboyway (Molon labe)
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To: antisocial
By having to be in any proximity to even one dammyankee!

If it's such a mistreatment then why do you put up with it? Delta flies east across the Atlantic as well as west.

435 posted on 09/09/2010 8:44:39 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: antisocial; Non-Sequitur; central_va
By having to be in any proximity to even one dammyankee!

It's high time for...Mr. Jones!

Keep yir version of “freedom”, ye damn fool libruls ‘n no-account neocons. We secesh remnants will keep ours - and practice it whether y’all make it legal or illegal – while we take the long, long view of history, at th' side of others whom ye’ve marginalized, such as th’ Serbs. As General Robert E. Lee wrote, “it is history that teaches us to hope,” and it is in akkordance with such hope that we look forward t’ the day that either we or our descendants daince on y’all’s graves.

OooWee! End Southern Occupation Free Dixie!!

436 posted on 09/09/2010 8:46:31 AM PDT by Idabilly ("When injustice becomes law....Resistance becomes DUTY!!!!!)
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To: Non-Sequitur
Not to mention bedtime snacks.

You guys hate 24/7 don't ya. You must be some really pleasant people to be around....sorta like libtards....

437 posted on 09/09/2010 8:47:53 AM PDT by cowboyway (Molon labe)
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To: Idabilly

*snicker*


438 posted on 09/09/2010 8:48:31 AM PDT by rockrr ("I said that I was scared of you!" - pokie the pretend cowboy)
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To: antisocial
Yankees aren’t concerned with anything so trivial as freedom

It's a shame that it took a Civil War for the South to develop a deep appreciation for human freedom, but the lesson was a success. I don't know anyone in the South who defends slavery anymore.

439 posted on 09/09/2010 8:48:37 AM PDT by Walts Ice Pick
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To: Idabilly
As General Robert E. Lee wrote, “it is history that teaches us to hope,”

But tis myth and fantasy that all y'all cling to and base your aspirations on.

...we look forward t’ the day that either we or our descendants daince on y’all’s graves.

Lik that's gonna happen any time soon.

440 posted on 09/09/2010 8:50:25 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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