Posted on 09/05/2010 10:56:10 AM PDT by Kaslin
In the wake of a dispute between WorldNetDaily editor Joseph Farah and conservative author Ann Coulter over her decision to headline an event sponsored by GOProud, a gay conservative organization, Farah and GOProud Chairman Christopher Barron will square off in a debate later this month at WND’s convention.
Barron told The Daily Caller that Farah challenged him to debate over whether GOProud can be considered “conservative” after Farah argued on his site that there is no place within conservatism for an organization like GOProud, a group that promotes itself as “the only national organization representing gay conservatives and their allies.” TheDC is waiting for confirmation from WND about the debate’s details.
Farah dropped Coulter from a speaking engagement at WND’s annual “Taking America Back” convention in Miami for agreeing to speak at GOProud’s “Homocon” party in New York. (Coulter later said that Farah had never actually booked her for a speech, calling him a “swine” and a “publicity whore.”)
Farah contends that groups like GOProud are trying to commit a “coup” to unroot the conservative movement with an “agenda…to take the homosexual agenda inside the conservative tent.”
Barron insists that his group is genuinely conservative and said he looks forward taking on Farah in front of a WND crowd.
“Since we announced that conservative author and columnist Ann Coulter would be headlining our Homocon 2010 in New York City, Farah has attacked GOProud, attacked Ann, and challenged our work almost every single day,” Barron said in a statement to The Daily Caller. “I look forward to standing on the stage with Mr. Farah to defend GOProud, to debunk the misinformation he has spread, and to make the case for GOProud’s conservative mission.”
Barron added that conservatism stands at a major crossroads in its acceptance of gays into the movement. A number of high profile conservatives, including Lisa De Pasquale of the Conservative Political Action Conference, Grover Norquist of Americans for Tax Reform and former General Counsel to the National Republican Senatorial Committee Craig Engle, have signed on as official sponsors of GOProud’s event.
The debate will be held on September 17 at 7:30 PM at the Doral Golf and Spa Resort in Miami, Florida.
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No. It's a lie. And you are buying it and condemning people to a life of misery.
Explain to me how excess male hormones would make a male more feminine? That is utter crap.
good article at your link.
I know this is “off topic” but anyone who has never read “Witness” his autobiography is missing one of the great biographies of the twentieth century.
But the only way that makes sense is if they themselves have had gay urges that they've fought off. Oh, I mean, homosexual. (If you say gay, they think that means you're a liberal.)
If the Three Fates on here have ever had homosexual urges that they've fought off, they have a better case. But if they've never even felt the slightest urge... you'd think that would help them realize... that they... were born straight.
But there's a bit of a logic disconnect around here sometimes.
Oh, you’ll also find that scientific studies that support their views are enshrined in stone, and any that disput it are junk science. Their only criterion for evaluating anything is “does it support my view?”
Really? Then you have not done your homework on Chambers’ life in the 20’s 30’s and 40’s...
He admitted he was gay. FBI files show it, too.
Sorry, you are wrong.
Dear DJ:
So the Lord would be saying to Joseph Farah and any hypocrite here: “Let who is without the sin of perversion/pornography cast the first stone..”
how’s that?
Paul also tells us:
“Of those on the outside of the church GOD IS THE JUDGE...
BUT of those on the inside... YOU are the judges.”
No one has the right to cast stones at Homocon in Jesus’ name, sorry.
What was your posting name before you were zotted last time?
I believe I already addressed that in later posts 533 and 536.
Just as part of your arguementation on the thread has been that posters interpretation or usage of Christian doctrine are misused in analyzing this entire business, I equally feel that the off hand reference to someone like Chambers to make your point weakens it rather than strengthens it.
I stated that I was offering no opinion on your overall postion as I hadn’t read the entire exchange and quite frankly don’t have the time of interest to do so. My dog ain’t in that fight.
I do have the time to place Chambers in context and that is what I have done. He deserves it.
TwoLegsGood post was the first mention of Chambers.
Thanks for the recommendation. I need to do some reading, it appears. I would never have known about this man if it hadn’t been for this thread.
To clarify, there appears to be an admission by Chambers about homosexuality in his life before the Hiss case. To say that he was gay or is another example of a gay conservative is incorrect.
Thanks. It certainly wasn’t my assertion.
Actually you just wrote the EXACT OPPOSITE of what Paul taught...
Paul condemned the Corinthians for trying to “remove themselves from the world” and that they were not to eat a meal with the sexually immoral in the church... not the sexually immoral of the WORLD.
We have no right to judge the sins of people outside the church. God is their judge.
That’s the Word of God, sorry.
Good then you’ve done your research and you understand Whittaker Chambers’ homosexuality was influenced by his bisexual/homosexual father and continued through his communist years up until the Hiss problems.
What exactly is your point?
The larger issues that are being argued about on this thread are arguments that I feel unqualified to enter when I haven't made a specific case to begin with. Somewhat like Chambers wanting to avoid the scourging of Eisenhower at National Review when he was just glad to have an anti-communist Republican in office.
All of this “condition” and its attendant politics is an endless story of human tragedy, manipulation and pain. Debating it on rationalistic terms is a waste of time if solutions from that debate are our end.
We have no right to judge the sins of people outside the church.
Yes we do. We have to judge right from wrong and are called to do so. What we can't do is condemn. THAT is God's job.
This is not a Scripture thread. Stick to the subject.
What was your posting name before you were zotted last time?
I understood that you had no interest in the thread. I just wanted you to know that Chambers had not been mentioned before.
Hi, Corny.
I was familiar with the NYT supposed “knowledge” of a letter to Hoover about his promiscuity with male and females — all of which would probably kept him shuddering all his life as asexual as he probably was. If the letter even truely existed it was probably Chambers being soul-searchingly minutely forthcomeing as to every character flaw that could be brought up to hurt the government’s case — and that alone.
My point is that citing the supposeded “well known” homosexuality of Chambers as though we are talking about a person in whom such a trait was a major feature of their character is a false manner to make arguement. We aren’t talking about a Gore Vidal type person here. Was Churchill a major queen because he attended Sandhurst with its attendant behavior?
Not sure what the point was, but it seems about as profound as saying Chambers WAS A COMMUNIST!
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