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Federal government shuts down 73,000 blogs (Digital Millennium Copyright Act (DMCA))
Tech 1984 ^ | 7/16/10 | Tech 1984

Posted on 07/18/2010 7:33:08 AM PDT by oc-flyfish

I shutter to think what plans are in store for conservative sites when the current administration so quickly violates the free speech rights of 73,000 legitimate sites!


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To: oc-flyfish

Echelon at work.


21 posted on 07/18/2010 8:35:55 AM PDT by Vaduz
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To: Bringbackthedraft

Follow the money indeed. Big business often does far better under a system of socialism mixed with crony capitalism. For an extreme example look at the Third Reich and pro Nazi businesses.


22 posted on 07/18/2010 8:45:03 AM PDT by JimSEA
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To: oc-flyfish

Time to move to non-US hosting. Panama has lots of fiber capacity and most hosting facilities are in ex-US military facilities in the Canal Zone.


23 posted on 07/18/2010 8:46:18 AM PDT by theBuckwheat
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To: oc-flyfish

Today about copyright. Tomorrow about criticizing the “healthcare” bill. Day after tomorrow about criticizing the mad rush to marxism that we’re in.


24 posted on 07/18/2010 8:59:00 AM PDT by Leftism is Mentally Deranged (leftism: uncurable mental deterioration)
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To: oc-flyfish

The statement from the ISP sounds like the feds actually seized the physical server. Sounds more like suspicion it contained encrypted kiddie-porn or jihadi material than a DMCA action. Remember the DMCA link is only speculation. Screen-shots and downloads as proof, plus a cease-and-desist order would have sufficed for DMCA enforcement, though I suppose encrypted versions of copyrighted material might make them want to seize the physical server, too.

Now here’s an idea: drive the Feds mad by setting up sites containing encrypted files with completely innocuous public domain content, but file names suggestive of something nefarious, and generate lots of traffic to and from it.


25 posted on 07/18/2010 8:59:40 AM PDT by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know. . .)
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To: centurion316

Correct. Typically though, a simple cease and desist order is sent. The hosting company deletes out the offending material and the other 72,999 sites are unaffected.

This is like chopping off your leg to remove pimple.


26 posted on 07/18/2010 9:16:06 AM PDT by oc-flyfish
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To: The_Reader_David

Hahaha! Use crazy encryption schemes that take them weeks to crack!


27 posted on 07/18/2010 9:18:00 AM PDT by oc-flyfish
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To: Ol' Dan Tucker

Funny and true!


28 posted on 07/18/2010 9:28:29 AM PDT by firebrand
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To: oc-flyfish
This is like chopping off your leg to remove pimple. I think that you are right, but they are rather anal about having the actual physical evidence and hanging on to it until the legal system has run its course. My own experience:

Some years ago, I had an employee who was involved with a group of people providing movies via Bit Torrent. The movie industry and the feds got concerned when these guys got their hands on the latest Star Wars movie, before release in theaters.

The FBI raided his apartment. He was not there, as he was out of town on a training course. However, they seized his computer which was being used as a server. The problem was that the server was government property. Without permission, he had taken the server home to configure it for Linux. Before he did that, he decided to transfer all of his home computer files to the government machine and clean up his own drive. We fired the employee, and bought the government a new server. We weren’t happy.

Our now former employee was convicted along with his fellow conspirators and spent time in federal prison. He was just a kid, and had no idea what he was getting into. He learned a hard lesson.

Over a year later, the FBI called and told us that we could pick up the server. The guy I sent to pick it up asked the agent if he had wiped the drive. He got a nasty response but was assured that all illegal materials had been removed. When we got the server back to the office, we found all the movies still intact.

29 posted on 07/18/2010 9:34:21 AM PDT by centurion316
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To: oc-flyfish

I had read that these were not really blogs but limewire napster type sites that were allowing file sharing of copywritten materials like dvds and cds is that not the case?


30 posted on 07/18/2010 9:34:56 AM PDT by edzo4 (You call us the 'Party Of No', I call us the resistance.)
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To: oc-flyfish
Freedom and Prosperity Pictures, Images and Photos
31 posted on 07/18/2010 9:46:22 AM PDT by rbosque (11 year Freeper! Combat Economist.)
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To: oc-flyfish

I did pretty well in spelling. But I still get gigged sometimes. (However, you did spell shutter correctly.)


32 posted on 07/18/2010 9:46:44 AM PDT by Enterprise (As a disaster unfolds, a putz putts.)
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To: pnh102
Not just that, but any criminal law involving copyright enforcement. It is not right that our tax money is paying for the enforcement of intellectual property rights for private entities.

Copyright violation is theft. Protecting property rights is a legitimate function of government. That's why the Constitution says that is an area that Congress has the power to pass laws.

33 posted on 07/18/2010 9:58:52 AM PDT by Wissa (Gone Galt)
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To: oc-flyfish

Better still, mix in a few gigabyte-plus files of random bits.


34 posted on 07/18/2010 10:22:14 AM PDT by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know. . .)
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To: oc-flyfish
free speech rights of 73,000 legitimate sites!

Headline says blogs. Sites and blogs are different things.

35 posted on 07/18/2010 10:29:15 AM PDT by humblegunner (Pablo is very wily)
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To: Wissa

Congress has the Constitutional authority “To promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts, by securing for limited Times to Authors and Inventors the exclusive Right to their respective Writings and Discoveries.” It really is unfortunate that we now refer to copyright and patent as “intellectual property law”. They are not. They are state-granted monopolies on the use of ideas or the making of copies of something.

Granting a monopoly of functionally unlimited duration—by copyright extensions up to what is it now, 95 years?—not to the creator of scientific or artistic works, but to commercial interests, which monopoly impedes progress in science and the (useful) arts by preventing the creation of derivative works is contrary to the Founders intent (which was to allow the U.S. to benefit from something like the Law of Queen Anne: 14 years initial duration, renewable by the author/artist/inventor—only, not his or her estate, not a commercial enterprise to which the rights were sold—for another 14 years).

At some point “stealing” from state-monopolies becomes morally justifiable as an act of civil disobedience against tyranny. Has “intellectual property law” as a support for crony-capitalism reached the point that like keeping some food from the collective-farm rather than turning it all over to the commissars, “piracy” has ceased to be theft in moral terms? Probably not. But copyright and patent law have strayed so far from their Constitutional foundation that we may be getting close to that point.

As a case-in-point, the fact that the goth band Unto Ashes cannot release their track “Fire and Ice” in the U.S. because Henry, Holt & Co. still holds exclusive rights to Robert Frost (d. 1968)’s 1928 poem “Fire and Ice” which was used as the lyrics shows how broken copyright law is: one would think that the Constitution read “To impede the progress of science and the arts by securing to commercial interests for indefinitely extendable times exclusive right to the works of inventors and authors whose works they bought the right to circulate.” It does not. Under any sensible system of laws, a 70 plus year old poem by an author who died over 30 year ago (the case in point is maybe 10 year old) should be in the public domain.


36 posted on 07/18/2010 10:52:14 AM PDT by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know. . .)
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To: Nodems2000
don’t you know if we are blessed with a conservative president in 2012, he will reverse a lot of this bull crap

Hey! I know this guy who is in on a deal to turn the Golden Gate Bridge into a toll bridge and for just $10K you can get in on it too....

37 posted on 07/18/2010 11:24:07 AM PDT by Chuckster (I need a new tag line)
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To: oc-flyfish

http://gunnyg.wordpress.com/2010/07/18/gunny-g-dont-send-that-outraged-e-mail/

Semper Blogging!

Every American A Blogger!


38 posted on 07/18/2010 12:23:14 PM PDT by gunnyg (Surrounded By The Enemy Within--~ Our "Novembers" Are Behind Us...If Ya Can Grok That!)
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To: Enterprise

“I shutter to think of ...”

Closing another window of liberty. Gives me cold shills.


39 posted on 07/18/2010 12:32:40 PM PDT by DPMD (~)
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To: winodog
I would have to see a link for that one. I dont remember Bush saying that.

You could have simply typed the phrase into Google where you would have found 2,310,000 links.

"There ought to be limits to freedom"

Here is the most succinct account of the events. (See: Bush criticizes Web site as malicious)

Liberals have a different playbook and it may well have been a PAC that bent the rules.

No offense, but you really should do a little research before you post a knee-jerk reaction defending the indefensible.

Duh!bya is a liberal in "compassionate" conservative clothing. The only one in that instance who chose to try to bend the rules was Bush. But, what the heck. It's only the freedom of speech, right?

40 posted on 07/19/2010 8:53:20 AM PDT by Ol' Dan Tucker (People should not be afraid of the government. Governement should be afraid of the people)
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