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Should new conservative GOP black congressmen join the Congressional Black Caucus?
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Posted on 07/14/2010 7:20:06 AM PDT by ken5050

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To: ken5050

I think they should absolutely attempt to join. When they are refused membership as will most likely happen it will point to the hypocrisy of this organization and we can happily point it out to them everytime that they are not about being black, but about leftist idealogy.

If by some miracle they are accepted, then these black congress people should work to reform the Congressional Black Caucus. Make them stand for conservative things that blacks like, especially school vouchers and the social issues. Cause mayhem!!!


21 posted on 07/14/2010 7:38:59 AM PDT by Old Teufel Hunden (u)
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To: PGR88
I think a white congressman (or better yet, congresswoman) should push to join the CBC.

I believe Congressman Cohen (D-TN), who represents a majority minority district, asked to join and was turned down. I also think the only other person who represents a majority black district and is not black is Joseph Cao of (R-LA).

22 posted on 07/14/2010 7:41:43 AM PDT by NeoCaveman ("There is no more money. Period. We are BROKE." - Lurker 5/21/10)
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To: PGR88
I think a white congressman (or better yet, congresswoman) should push to join the CBC.

It's already been tried, from Wikipedia:

White membership

Over the years, the question has arisen, "Does the Caucus allow only black members?" Pete Stark, D-Ca., who is white, tried and failed to join in 1975. In January 2007, Josephine Hearn reported in Politico that white members of Congress were not welcome to join the CBC.[5] Freshman Representative Steve Cohen, D-Tn., who is white, pledged to apply for membership during his election campaign to represent his constituents, who were 60% black. Hearn further reported that although the bylaws of the caucus do not make race a prerequisite for membership, former and current members of the Caucus agreed that the group should remain "exclusively black." Rep. William Lacy Clay, Jr., D-Mo., the son of Rep. William Lacy Clay Sr., D-Mo., a co-founder of the caucus, is quoted as saying, "Mr. Cohen asked for admission, and he got his answer. He's white and the Caucus is black. It's time to move on. We have racial policies to pursue and we are pursuing them, as Mr. Cohen has learned. It's an unwritten rule. It's understood." In response to the decision, Rep. Cohen stated, "It's their caucus and they do things their way. You don't force your way in." Clay issued an official statement from his office:

"Quite simply, Rep. Cohen will have to accept what the rest of the country will have to accept - there has been an unofficial Congressional White Caucus for over 200 years, and now it's our turn to say who can join 'the club.' He does not, and cannot, meet the membership criteria, unless he can change his skin color. Primarily, we are concerned with the needs and concerns of the black population, and we will not allow white America to infringe on those objectives."

It is a racist organization, plain and simple, and an outrage that the taxpayers are forced to fund it.
23 posted on 07/14/2010 7:42:19 AM PDT by MozarkDawg
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To: ken5050
a caucus based on racial identify is the antithesis of what America is

What I want to know is, how are we supposed to be a color blind society, when ethnic groups keep segregating themselves by color? As I see it, the CBC should be open to all members of Congress, regardless of color. Why do you have to be a bro to be a brother?

24 posted on 07/14/2010 7:42:19 AM PDT by giotto
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To: tatsinfla
....why do the blacks always have to have their own little group...

Blacks have to have their own little group for this reason: they're lazy. Using the race card on issues instead of putting together a well-thought out,reasoned position savew them a lot of work.

25 posted on 07/14/2010 7:42:35 AM PDT by thethirddegree
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To: thethirddegree

“Blacks have to have their own little group for this reason: they’re lazy.”

Sure glad the post-racial conservatives showed up.

Oy.


26 posted on 07/14/2010 7:45:17 AM PDT by ko_kyi
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To: giotto; All
Watts refused to join....a principled stand...the only requirements are that you be black and a member of Congress..thus they could not exclude GOP members..

Interesting that so far, Freepers pretty much split down the middle on the question...yet without much contentiousness..

27 posted on 07/14/2010 7:48:32 AM PDT by ken5050 (Save the Earth..It's the only planet with chocolate!!!)
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To: massgopguy

Yes, J.C. was the “token Uncle Tom (which is really a misnomer but as usual, our black racist friends haven’t read the book).”


28 posted on 07/14/2010 7:48:53 AM PDT by zerosix (Native Sunflower)
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To: ken5050

If past is prologue, the black republican will not be welcome to join the CBC.

I would hope he would have no interest in joining such a blatantly racist group of politicians.


29 posted on 07/14/2010 7:49:51 AM PDT by Carley (For those who fought for it, freedom has a flavor the protected will never know.)
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To: ko_kyi

Read the rest of his post..it’s biting sarcasm..albeit poorly stated..


30 posted on 07/14/2010 7:49:51 AM PDT by ken5050 (Save the Earth..It's the only planet with chocolate!!!)
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To: ken5050

A Conservative Caucus is the best solution - would be great if Tim Scott & Col. West initiated it. They could really cause a stir with a mission statement that membership is based on *Don’t ask & Don’t tell if you are Asian, Indian, black or caucasian*. Face paint is optional!!!!


31 posted on 07/14/2010 7:51:11 AM PDT by sodpoodle (Despair - Man's surrender. Laughter - God's redemption)
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To: ken5050
Should new conservative GOP black congressmen join the Congressional Black Caucus?

What makes you think they'll be allowed to even if they wanted?

32 posted on 07/14/2010 7:52:10 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: ken5050
Sure, why not. Let him disrupt the party.
The Mere presence of someone who does not believe Guam is floating around out there will blow their minds.
33 posted on 07/14/2010 8:14:48 AM PDT by Colvin (Proud Owner '66 Binder PU, '66 Binder Travelall,)
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To: ken5050

Conservatives should be above playing racial politics. We’re grown ups. We are not petty.

We cannot unite people by constantly pointing out what divides us. Black conservatives should not join the CBC because that’s all the CBC does - point out ways to divide us.


34 posted on 07/14/2010 8:27:18 AM PDT by Personal Responsibility (I can see November from my house!)
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To: ken5050

I think they should join. And if they’re not invited, they should sue to join. Or if that option isn’t available, they should demand to be allowed in, and never miss an opportunity to publicly complain about the hypocritical unfairness of their exclusion. Then once they’re in, they can loudly advocate for disbanding that horrible institution, and do everything they can from the inside to frustrate its agenda. They won’t have the juice to do actually disband it, but they will be a constant pain in the tuchus of those racist commie bastards.

It’s what Alinsky would do.


35 posted on 07/14/2010 8:33:51 AM PDT by Maceman
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To: Maceman

Completely agree with you.


36 posted on 07/14/2010 8:54:16 AM PDT by scory
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To: ken5050

Last time we had a republican black congressman, I don’t think he was ALLOWED to be in the CBC.

And I know that a white guy tried to join, and was rejected.


37 posted on 07/14/2010 9:16:08 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: PGR88

Democrat congressman Cohen from Tennessee tried to join, to fulfill a campaign promise he made when running since he represents a 60% black district.

The CBC rejected him, saying he didn’t meet the criteria since he had the wrong skin color.

Turns out JC Watts wasn’t rejected, he simply refused to join. Three other black republicans have apparently been members of the caucus.


38 posted on 07/14/2010 9:21:03 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: ken5050

Change comes from within..

Could they be the seeds that could yield a crop of new freed ‘radicals’ that can see thru the dark shades of prejudice and denial?

We’ll probably never know. I doubt the CBC would invite them anyway.


39 posted on 07/14/2010 10:32:14 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed .. Monthly Donor Onboard)
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