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To: dayglored; Swordmaker

I am denying that you know how to read, expound, clarify or comprehend. Because, I have and do so here and now, yet again, present the FULL case not the single and isolated non contextual twists you pursue for your own self entertainment. So, listen up, last call.

When I discuss INVULNERABILITY I am NOT discussing the technical means. I am NOT discussing the code level access points. I am NOT in any way trying to make the point that it MIGHT NEVER be done somehow, someway, under any and every conceivable contrivance. Nor does ANY SANE person, attempt to do so when discussing anything. The subject matter does not matter.

If we discuss Salad Dressing, and I say this dressing is PERFECT. I am NOT meaning, and no sane person takes it to mean “The molecular composition of this substance is without chemical or electron error in any atomic configuration”. SO STOP IT! Seriously, especially when I have said... Uhm, You are taking this too far and off the original topic about how wonderful the cooks are at this restaurant. No one is suggesting the cooks are gods. Just they make a very good salad.

Then, for even MORE INSANITY, instead of taking that very simple statement, and very simple clarification, you grab straws and spin for the gold claiming “Oh Now I see, so you admit these cooks make HORRID SALAD and know they can’t really make a PERFECT salad after all. Ha Ha Ha, You are so wrong....

Do you see this game yet? Really? When someone says something, and you take it wrong, intentionally or in ignorance, and they correct it, clarify it, and restate it, and you then attack them for being wrong the first time, it is YOU who are behaving in an irrational manner.

So, again, when YOU STARTED by saying iPhone is EQUAL IN RISK to Droid, and further, did not retract it, but expounded saying OSX was also equal to Windows, in quantitative terms of risk and viruses, et al, and I pointed out that you were far in error and that comparatively, which is what YOU were doing, I stated that Mac was INVULNERABLE. Yes, I meant it.

C O M P A R I T I V E L Y Speaking !!

Relative to YOUR POINT!!

Under the context in which YOU began with YOUR LIE.

Which you have used every since to deflect from your LIES.

STOP!

STOP STOP STOP!

Let’s further, but not for the first time, so this is not new, go over the point. Droid is totally open and iPhone is totally closed. Droid has had THOUSANDS, (posted link on previous thread) of actual bad app issues in the real world, effecting perhaps millions of users and for which they offer and sell anti virus software. Documented posted neutral third party web stats. Thanks.

iPhone, outside of the few FUD attempts, which all seem to be minor production issues, NOT VIRAL or APP issues... this last fishing expedition is too knew to fully evaluate, let’s see what becomes of this, has had NO SUCH .... here it comes... COMPARABLE issues.

Thus, YOU are wrong in the actual real world claims that iPhone has JUST AS MANY virus issues as Droid. Your claim is directly, totally and without mincing words... FALSE.

My claim, that comparatively speaking, for ALL of the many and not technically singular reasons given, being that NO widespread issues are prevalent, that Mac is INVULNERABLE.

And I always close with, UNTIL and UNLESS, an actual set of such widespread issues develop, and until and unless the solution to said not yet occurring problems becomes the introduction of, and proliferation of, third party anti virus software, then the systems are NOT AT ALL EQUAL IN RISK. And you remain wrong and I remain right.

All your technotheories aside. Until they ARE equal, they are by definition NOT equal. And thus, until actually breached, INVULNERABLE.

Good day.


118 posted on 07/06/2010 8:54:24 AM PDT by RachelFaith (2010 is going to be a 100 seat Tsunami - Unless the GOP Senate ruins it all...)
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To: RachelFaith; dayglored; Swordmaker

Hi Rachel,

First, it’s not nice to rant on about another person without copying them on it. You should talk to Swordmaker about that. I’m surprised he hasn’t chastised you about it yet, he certainly is quick to do so when I forget him...

As far as your INVULNERABLE claim, let me summarize:

- There has not been a virus “in the wild” for iOS or OSX
- Consumers don’t care about technical speak
- Therefore iOS and OSX are invulnerable

That about sum it up? It’s INVULNERABLE in the minds of their users, not in the real world, and thus it is really invulnerable?

Seems to be a rather convoluted - and highly misleading (some would say outright lying) - position to put forth. Basically you are invulnerable until you’re not.

Is that an accurate summary?

Then I guess I can claim that I am bullet-proof because I have not yet been perforated with a bullet.


131 posted on 07/06/2010 4:58:54 PM PDT by PugetSoundSoldier (Indignation over the Sting of Truth is the defense of the indefensible)
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