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To: Durus

I disagree that the abondonment of the constitution is what destroyed out country most.

I say the abondonment of God’s laws concerning morality is what did it.

My reasoning is this: If all Americans were to adhere to the Constitution right now, we’d still be in a huge mess. Why? There’s nothing unconstitutional about the press having an agenda in their reporting. There is nothing unconstitutional about teachers having an agenda. There is nothing unconstitutional about Social Security or welfare or any number of laws and actions that are hurting our country.

So that is why I disagree. The fundamental problem with our country is that we have lost our understanding of right and wrong. We think of self and not the greater good.

I agree with the substance of your post I’m replying to though. And as a God fearing person, I also agree that there is a need for seperation of church and state. I hope to some day live in God’s kingdom, but that is something man cannot bring about.


49 posted on 06/30/2010 11:15:21 AM PDT by Miztiki
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To: Miztiki
Perhaps there is a root cause and I suggested one...but we have learned to ignore morality and the constitution.

If magically the American people were to wake tomorrow and decide to follow the constitution to the letter, after a brief time America would be great again. While there is nothing unconstitutional about the press having an agenda there shouldn't be either. If one is properly educated and knowledgeable then recognizing the partisanship of the press is simple and makes it merely an irritant. While there is nothing unconstitutional about teachers having an agenda, the way our educational system is run is unconstitutional. Social Security and Welfare are unconstitutional. This is exactly what I mean by people not understanding the basic principles of the constitution. Our government was given few and definite powers. All other powers are reserved to the states or to the people. There is no enumerated power to run education, social security, and the welfare system.

Advocating for the greater good is exactly what gains socialists power. Our government was formed for the following reasons

"
We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America."

In order to complete it's objectives it enumerates (and by doing so limits) what powers we the people have ceded to our federal government. Among these are not the modern welfare state, social security or education.
51 posted on 06/30/2010 11:59:02 AM PDT by Durus (The People have abdicated our duties and anxiously hopes for just two things, "Bread and Circuses")
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