Posted on 05/15/2010 10:09:39 AM PDT by patriotgal1787
It's something we've been mulling over for days... We've been wondering why Sarah Palin endorsed Carly Fiorina over Chuck DeVore in the battle to unseat California's Leftist Queen Imbecile "Don't call me ma'am" Barbara Boxer.
We interviewed DeVore on our program a couple of weeks ago. We liked him. He's got military cred. He has a strongly conservative voting record as a California State Assemblyman. He's been vetted and endorsed by Melanie Morgan's newly formed organization "Warriors for Congress", and he passed muster with flying colors.
I admit we're as disappointed as we are puzzled at why Palin would endorse Fiorina -- someone we don't believe is a true conservative. We question her record to fight hard to bring the Golden State back from the precipice of disaster (assuming it's not already too late to pull off that gigundo feat).
We want the Senate occupied with common sense conservatives who already have an established track record proving they're who they claim to be. We don't see that in Carly Fiorina. who said she would have voted to confirm Supreme Court Justice Sonia Sotomayor. So we we're wondering what Sarah sees in her that we don't.
Now we know. It's about winnability. That's it?
During her remarks last week in Illinois, the Hillboyz reported that Palin said she believes Fiorina and DeVore are splitting the conservative vote, and that if she didnt step in, Tom Campbell would win the nomination and Campbell is a RINO who would lose to Barbara Boxer. Because Palin believes Fiorina has the best chance of beating Boxer, she sided with Fiorina (who was an economic advisor to McCain during his presidential campaign. That really worked out well, didn't it?) So Palin has thrown in with Fiorina so that Campbell wouldnt be a spoiler who would force a loss to Boxer in what could be a winnable race.
That's IT???
Arrrrgh.... Sorry, I can't buy it. If Palin truly believed in backing the bonafide conservative, she'd have delivered it to DeVore and her endorsement would have carried tremendous firepower for him, bringing him even more endorsements and most importantly, CASH -- the lifeblood of any campaign. Instead of lending DeVore a hand up, she landed him a potentially fatal blow.
Yet, conservatives are rallying behind DeVore. The resulting blowback Palin's received from conservatives across the country has been stunning (just read the thousands of comments at her Facebook page), and DeVore's poll numbers have been climbing in the wake of Palin's controversial endorsement.
Melanie writes:
Palin fans, who gave her a pass when she endorsed her former running-mate Sen. John McCain, went ballistic when she gave Fiorina the nod.In fact, conservative voters ARE deserting Carly Fiorina in droves - and there is data to prove it.The story has been covered, but the underlying turmoil caused by Palins endorsement is still roiling. It has HELPED DeVore as Palins followers tossed her under the bus to stand with DeVore. DeVore had one of his top fund-raising days ever after the endorsement. His Facebook Fan numbers have skyrocketed.
Hes a Tea Party favorite. More importantly, hes a conservative whose star is rising in the S.F. Bay Area of all places!! This says he CAN win one for the conservative movement.
The base is coming home to DeVore:
DeVore Grabs 54% of State Tea Party Poll http://www.uncoverage.net/2010/05/devore-has-54-in-california-tea-party-poll/ Pleasanton Tea party poll final: 54% DeVore 21% Fiorina 12% CampbellAnd this:
Sarah Palin astroturfing in California didn't work out so well for Carly.....Chuck DeVore is up 5 points after the Moose Madam endorsement, Fiorina is tanking... Are California conservatives getting ready to roar?After studying the latest Rasmussen polling results showing DeVore gaining, Erick Erickson at RedState observed:
"... because Chuck DeVore outperforms Carly Fiorina against Barbara Boxer.If she makes it through the primary and general election, will Carly Fiorina be the clear-thinking conservative who'll make the right decisions in the Senate?The logic we are supposed to pursue in this matter is this: Carly is outperforming Chuck in the primary and she is better than Tom Campbell, so go with Carly.
The logic we ought to pursue is this: Chuck outperforms Carly against Boxer and Campbell does better than them both against Boxer, so maybe we should be supporting Chuck instead of Carly to beat both Campbell and Boxer.
After all, say what you will about the primary, but please tell me how running a woman who has laid off half of California, sending their jobs to China, is really going to be competitive against Barbara Boxer.
Here's the clip of Sarah explaining her rationale for blessing Fiorina with holy endorsement water. You buying it???
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Sarah is, first and foremost, a Republican politician.
Before I read you last line I was thinking "Why is he setting the bar so high" we're talking Boxer here.
Palin has never thought in the same box as you... or me. Not surprising. Alaskans are very much individualists and always will be.
Has anyone thought to ASK her why?
I very much believe she’d tell you, and do so honestly. Speculation seem like such a loser sport, you know.
You may be right. Time will tell. Her constant support of those known as “Rinos” makes me suspicious. In the long run a person cannot hide themselves. We have time to fully evaluate her. Again, time will tell.
One last comment. Palin’s willing to go out on a limb and actually endorse, not waiting for the rest of the world to choose sides. That’s a risky move politically. You’re not always going to find yourself on the most popular side. You’re not always going to be “right” either. In this case, score = ‘courage, 1’,’being right, 0’ perhaps. Then again, the cynic in me says that Palin’s just doing what she views as the right thing - DeVore’s been criticised for being an inept campaigner and manager - that could be a worse sin in some eyes than being ideologically impure. Whatcha’ gonna’ do? Throw Palin under the bus?
And about an endorsement that will help in the Presidential primary in 2012. If Devore loses, his endorsement won't help much in 2012. If Fiorina wins, hers will, at least in the primary, maybe in the general. Palin seems to have decided that Devore could not win. She should have been helping him all along, and she should not have thrown in the towel too early, either. If he still wasn't cutting it, a week or so before the election, she could have had influence with him to get him to throw his support to Fiorina to prevent a Campbell win.
If she had been active for Devore, I bet his numbers would be different. It is nice that they are climbing now, I hope they can keep going. Rush ought to weigh in on his behalf, he has been pretty vocal about the need to elect conservatives. Levin already endorsed him. Palin made a mistake on this one.
Was set to vote for DeVore. But Sarah's recent endorsement flipped my vote.
You Betcha.
I disagree. A conservative can win, if he/she articulates his positions and does not back down in the face of liberal attacks. A Chris Christie personality who tells it like it is, supports America and limited government, and who promises to enforce the border and protect the California taxpayers from an invasion would win big. Maybe not every year, but this year is set up for that kind of candidate. To nominate Fiorina is to waste the opportunity that has been handed to us.
The motto of this election should be "We need two thirds in Congress to stay free". This message resonated even in Massachusetts.
Exactly!
She did explain it on her Facebook post, in detail. I didn’t agree. I mostly agree with her on other things, and she is my favorite of the people mentioned these days for 2012, unless DeMint runs.
There is a problem in the argument that she supports the candidate with the biggest chances of winning. This implies that Palin’s endorsement is worthless and that she has no influence and merely goes with the flow. So Palin is clearly wrong in taking this position. She could have shown her mettle by influencing voters to vote for DeVore and delivering a victory for conservatives.
Agreed, except for the "conservative instincts" part. However, I will say I do think Mrs Palin has exceptional political instincts. (Which is to say, she can stick her finger in the wind and right now the prevailing winds are blowing in a conservative direction, so, like her former running mate, she will tack that way, when she isn't veering off in another direction)
To tell the truth, I haven't the faintest idea what Mrs Palin means when she says "commonsense conservatism". Reminds me of "compassionate conservatism," which in turn reminds me of Former VPOTUS Dan Quayle saying he would fire anyone on his staff who uttered the phrase "compassionate conservative."
What it means is this: Hey conservative, gimme your vote, but trust me, when I throw conservative values under the bus I am actually doing good for you based on common sense which I have but you don't. So you need to continue supporting me when I compromise on conservative values.
“.....she had a pooch moment as we all do...”
As my spiritual father and mentor once told me: “Everyone burns their toast once in a while, no matter WHO they are!”
Sarah pretty much burned HERS on the Fiorina endorsement. But remember, our hero Ronaldus Magnus didn’t bat 1000, either. NOBODY does.
What would anyone think of a BARBOUR/PALIN ticket? Just askin’.
She said why in the attached video. Watch it. She thinks Fiorina can win.
I’m fed up with Sarah Palin. It was bound to happen on her famed glory train ride. She needs to step back out of the limelight for awhile as she has oversold her brand and she’s getting a bit goofy. Enough already!
Thanks, that clears it up for me!
Mark Levin is supporting DeVore. He has spent more time articulating conservatism on a theoretical and practical level than Palin. His endorsement trumps hers in my mind.
Another Juan McDemocrat favor.
Is that evil or bad? One thing I know about Alaskans... Is that they play the hand they’re dealt as best they can. If that’s how she sees it, it might be ultimately a mistake... or it might be right. Ultimately, I want the best possible candidate who can win. But I won’t shred anyone, nor throw them under the bus for disagreeing on who that is.
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