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Educating The Really Really Confused About “Nbc-gate”
naturalborncitizen ^ | 4/26/2010 | Leo Donofrio

Posted on 04/26/2010 10:21:49 AM PDT by rxsid

"Educating The Really Really Confused About “Nbc-gate”

It looks like Nbc-Gate is hitting top volume. I’ve witnessed some very desperate blogging propaganda trying to stop the bleeding as the nation finally wakes up to the fact that President Obama was a British citizen at the time of his birth. Having been born with dual nationality, he was born with a recognized allegiance to a foreign nation. I have explained previously in great detail why this disqualifies him from being President.

The historical dam is breaking as more and more evidence surfaces proving Obama is not eligible. A reader of this blog who has asked to remain anonymous recently provided further historical proof that Obama is not eligible to be president. The New Englander And Yale Law Review, Volume 3 (1845) states

The expression ‘citizen of the United States occurs in the clauses prescribing qualifications for Representatives, for Senators, and for President. In the latter, the term ‘natural born citizen’ is used and excludes all persons owing allegiance by birth to foreign states.
That is serious on point historical research. At the time of his birth, Obama owed allegiance to Great Britain. That is not disputed, it is admitted by the President himself. And this admission is the true problem Obama faces should this issue ever make its way to the Supreme Court. Obama owed allegiance to great Britain when he was born."

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http://naturalborncitizen.wordpress.com/2010/04/26/educating-the-really-really-confused-about-nbc-gate/

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TOPICS: Conspiracy; Government; History; Politics
KEYWORDS: birthcertificate; birther; certifigate; citizen; donofrio; dualcitizenship; naturalborncitizen; nbc; nbcgate; obama; soetoro
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To: rxsid

President Andrew Jackson (1829-1837) is the only president born of two immigrants, both Irish.
Presidents with one immigrant parent are:

President Thomas Jefferson (1801-1809), whose mother was born in England,

President James Buchanan (1857-1861) Irish father

President Chester Arthur (1881-1885), Irish father

President Woodrow Wilson (1913-1921) Mother born in England

President Herbert Hoover (1929-1933), Mother born in Canada.

Note: President Hoover was president AFTER the first national immigration quotas/law were established in 1921. Before then, immigration was a state by state issue.


81 posted on 04/26/2010 3:34:17 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: El Gato
You'll notice that says NOTHING about "Natural Born Citizens". It is you who are equating "born citizens" with "natural born citizens"

Read it again. It's clearly saying native-born citizens are natural-born citizens, because "Native citizens may fill any office" which includes the Presidency.

82 posted on 04/26/2010 3:36:25 PM PDT by Kleon
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To: longtermmemmory; All
"President Andrew Jackson (1829-1837) is the only president born of two immigrants, both Irish."

Born March 15, 1767 and therefore was grandfathered past the NBC requirement as he was a "a citizen of the United States, at the time of the adoption of this Constitution". Constitutionally Qualified.

"Presidents with one immigrant parent are:

President Thomas Jefferson (1801-1809), whose mother was born in England,"

Born 13 April 1743 and therefore was grandfathered past the NBC requirement as he was a "a citizen of the United States, at the time of the adoption of this Constitution". Constitutionally Qualified.

"President James Buchanan (1857-1861) Irish father"

His mother Elizabeth Speer was born in Pennsylvania. His father James Buchanan emigrated to the United States from Ireland in 1783. Before the Constitution, United States citizenship was conferred on citizens by the States. When the Constitution was ratified, each citizen of a state became a citizen of the United States. No formal naturalization was needed.

On June 21, 1788 the Constitution was ratified. The Buchanans were citizens of Pennsylvania and therefore James Sr. was a citizen of the United States. When James Jr. was born in Pennsylvania he was therefore a natural born citizen, born on United States soil to two US citizen parents. Constitutionally Qualified.

"President Chester Arthur (1881-1885), Irish father"

The first usurper POTUS, who's father didn't naturalize until he was 14 years old. Told many lies about himself, ordered many of his papers burned upon his death. His non NBC status was not known by the public at large prior to or during the election nor while he was in office. Constitutionally unqualified.

"President Woodrow Wilson (1913-1921) Mother born in England"

Wilson’s mother was from Carlisle, England. His father was a US citizen from Ohio. Wilson’s mother gained US citizenship when she married his father according to a congressional Act of February 1855, which stated,

“any woman who might lawfully be naturalized under existing laws, married, or shall be married to a citizen of the United States, shall be deemed and taken to be a citizen.” [Act of February 10, 1855, 10 Stat. 604, section 2]

This was called derivative citizenship. This act was enacted in 1855. Woodrow Wilson was born in December 1856. He was born in the US, both parents were US citizens - natural born citizen. Constitutionally qualified.

"President Herbert Hoover (1929-1933), Mother born in Canada."

Hoover was born in Iowa, 1874. He was the 31st President. His father Jesse was from Ohio, a US citizen. His mother Hulda Minthorn was from Ontario, Canada. They were married in 1870. According to the 1855 act, which was in effect until 1922, Hoover’s mother became a US citizen automatically when she married Jesse.

So, Hoover was born in the US, both parents were citizens - natural born citizen. Constitutionally qualified.

83 posted on 04/26/2010 3:39:14 PM PDT by rxsid (HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
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To: Uncle Chip
They are the ones that claim that his citizenship was "governed by The British Nationality Act of 1948". By their own admission --

We don't let foreign citizenship laws change the status of our own citizens. If the British want to claim citizenship, then fine. But that doesn't change the fact that someone born on American soil is a U.S. citizen.

84 posted on 04/26/2010 3:39:56 PM PDT by Kleon
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To: Fred Nerks
The resemblance among the daughters of MX and Zero is really striking, particularly one of MX’s and one of Zero's where their cheek bones are very noticeable.
85 posted on 04/26/2010 3:41:08 PM PDT by Natural Born 54 (FUBO x 10)
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To: roaddog727

“Just as another note on the subject - you can not hold a US Gov’t SECURITY CLEARANCE if you are a dual citizen.”

Do you remember that Bil and Hill were also ineligible for security clearances when he was elected, but it didn’t matter.
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86 posted on 04/26/2010 3:42:22 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Obamacare is America's kristallnacht !!)
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To: longtermmemmory

President Jefferson, Jackson, were born before the US Constitution was created in 1787 and they fall under the grandfather clause 5 of Article 2, Section 1.

Buchanan parents emigrated from Ireland years before the adoption of the US Constitution.

Authur successfully lied to the public in his short presidency and who was never seriously challenged in public discourse or in a court of law. Authur burned his personal documents before his death to hide the fact he was not a natural born citizen.

Woodrow Wilson mother became a citizen of the United States when she married Wilson’s father.

Herbert Hoover’s mother became a US citizen when she married her American Father. See Naturalization Act of 1855.


87 posted on 04/26/2010 3:42:51 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Natural Born 54

talking about it on two threads is making my head spin!

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2500168/posts?page=86#86


88 posted on 04/26/2010 3:44:21 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum!)
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To: Red Steel

They trot out the same ol’ tired attempts at obfuscation. To no avail.


89 posted on 04/26/2010 3:45:32 PM PDT by rxsid (HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
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To: Fred Nerks

I looking at four and having the same problem.


90 posted on 04/26/2010 3:46:23 PM PDT by Natural Born 54 (FUBO x 10)
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To: rxsid

We always have to cover the same ground over and over...


91 posted on 04/26/2010 3:49:24 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: roaddog727

FOUO.


92 posted on 04/26/2010 3:50:46 PM PDT by Lumper20
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To: Natural Born 54

And this is what the son of Barack Hussein Obama Senior looks like! Is there anyone still out there prepared to try and tell me that he and zero are related?

93 posted on 04/26/2010 3:56:57 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum!)
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To: Fred Nerks

Nope, not me. What’s with the pineapple chin?


94 posted on 04/26/2010 4:07:11 PM PDT by Natural Born 54 (FUBO x 10)
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To: Fred Nerks

Completely different skin tone. Not only darker, but with ruddy undertone. Underslung jaw, longer nose, totally different shape of face.


95 posted on 04/26/2010 4:12:51 PM PDT by little jeremiah (http://lifewurx.com - Good herb formulas made by a friend)
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To: longtermmemmory
Other than Chester Arthur, who hid the fact that his father had not been naturalized when Chester was born, all of those immigrant parents had been naturalized when the President in Question was born. The ones that were mothers were naturalized automatically upon marriage to a US citizen man.

Barack H. Obama Senior was never naturalized, he wasn't even a permanent resident alien. At least Arthur's father eventually was naturalized, well before Chester became President, when Chester was 14.

Jefferson and Jackson were born before the Constitution was ratified, in fact before the Revolution, and had become citizens upon the independence of the country from Britian. They were covered by the exception to the natural born citizen requirement.

No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President;

But Nice Try.

NOT!


96 posted on 04/26/2010 4:15:32 PM PDT by El Gato ("The second amendment is the reset button of the US constitution"-Doug McKay)
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To: Fred Nerks
It has not been established if twins are the result of paternal or maternal inherited traits, but twins do run in families...

Yes it has. It runs in the mother's family. For fraternal twins. For identical twins, it seems not to run in families at all, it just happens. Like it did to my daughter and her husband. No twins, not even fraternal, in either family as far back as anyone knows.

97 posted on 04/26/2010 4:17:30 PM PDT by El Gato ("The second amendment is the reset button of the US constitution"-Doug McKay)
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To: longtermmemmory
There are six prior presidents with at least one foreign born parent.

True, but irrelevant. What's relevant is the citizenship status of the parents when the child is born, not the parent's birthplace.

If BHO Sr had been naturalized, AND if the birth was in the US, Jr. would be Natural Born. Born outside the US, but both parents citizens, he'd be naturalized at birth, unless BHO Sr was serving in the US military at the time. Which he was neither a citizen nor serving the US military. So Jr is SOL.

98 posted on 04/26/2010 4:20:52 PM PDT by El Gato ("The second amendment is the reset button of the US constitution"-Doug McKay)
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To: little jeremiah

He doesn’t look much like Barack Sr. either, does he? What a mess this family is.


99 posted on 04/26/2010 4:21:13 PM PDT by Natural Born 54 (FUBO x 10)
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To: Fred Nerks

Fred, checking out your links and one seems to be missing a photo. Do you remember which photo it was and why would it be gone? Here’s the link:

http://allafrica.com/stories/200408160533.html


100 posted on 04/26/2010 4:24:57 PM PDT by Natural Born 54 (FUBO x 10)
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