To: Red Steel
If, to you, “citizen at birth” doesn’t mean “natural born citizen,” we are on two different planets, I think. We know that NBC is nowhere “defined,” so we have to think a little. One day it will click for you, but only if you get out of your echo chamber. You thumb your nose at U.S. law, so I guess there’s just no hope for you. You are like a schizophrenic and his visions of things that aren’t there. If you ever return to reality, you’ll understand that 1401 tells you who is a natural born citizen. If you knew how to determine what a reputable source of information about legal issues is, you’d have moved on to other things by now. I hope you come to your senses someday.
To: Technical Editor
It's already clicked. Have you even looked at the article that this thread is about? So who should we believe? David Ramsey the American Revolutionary War historian who twice served in the Continental Congress, and who wrote "The History of The American Revolution," or Tech Editor, who wrongly extrapolates that "Citizen" in US code 1401 equates to natural born citizen as the same meaning in Article 2, Section 1, Article 5 of the US Constitution. US code 1401 does not or could it define, or does it even attempt to interpret the natural born citizen clause in the Constitution.
You are like a schizophrenic and his visions of things that arent there.
It's you who is seeing things that are not there.
so I guess theres just no hope for you.
There is plenty of hope for me. You however, have your nose stuck somewhere else. Just the other day I had to correct you about the subject of Steinkauler in SCOTUS 1939 case of Perkins v. Elg because he was referred to as a native born citizen where you erroneously concluded that a native born is always a natural born citizen.
To: Technical Editor; Red Steel; All
If you ever return to reality, youll understand that 1401 tells you who is a natural born citizen. Oh, really?! You need to do your homework, son. Clue in Congress on you false presupposition, as they have tried to define "Natural Born Citizen" attemping nearly 30 times since the 1870s and HAVE been UNABLE to do so, always breaking down in Committee.
Here's one of their last attempts in 2004:
108th CONGRESS
2d Session
S. 2128To define the term `natural born Citizen' as used in the Constitution of the United States to establish eligibility for the Office of President. IN THE SENATE OF THE UNITED STATES
February 25, 2004
Mr. NICKLES (for himself, Ms. LANDRIEU, and Mr. INHOFE) introduced the following bill; which was read twice and referred to the Committee on the Judiciary
A BILLTo define the term `natural born Citizen' as used in the Constitution of the United States to establish eligibility for the Office of President.
Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled,
SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE.
This Act may be cited as the `Natural Born Citizen Act'.
SEC. 2. DEFINITION OF `NATURAL BORN CITIZEN' .
(a) IN GENERAL- Congress finds and declares that the term `natural born Citizen' in Article II, Section 1, Clause 5 of the Constitution of the United States means--
(1) any person born in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof; and
(2) any person born outside the United States--
(A) who derives citizenship at birth from a United States citizen parent or parents pursuant to an Act of Congress; or
(B) who is adopted by 18 years of age by a United States citizen parent or parents who are otherwise eligible to transmit citizenship to a biological child pursuant to an Act of Congress.
(b) UNITED STATES- In this section, the term `United States', when used in a geographic sense, means the several States of the United States and the District of Columbia.
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143 posted on
04/02/2010 11:30:22 PM PDT by
BP2
(I think, therefore I'm a conservative)
To: Technical Editor
145 posted on
04/03/2010 6:45:26 AM PDT by
Uncle Chip
(TRUTH : Ignore it. Deride it. Allegorize it. Interpret it. But you can't ESCAPE it.)
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