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To: OldDeckHand; for-q-clinton; little jeremiah

PNSN:”Mommy and Daddy must BOTH be born in the USA in order for Baby to be considered a natural born citizen of the USA.”

ODH:In your opinion, your crazy, crazy opinion, as no court has ever held such a statement to be true, nor is there a definition of “natural born citizen” found in the US Constitution.

ODH:As for your explicit definition, there’s not a law school in the country, nor a state bar exam that adopts your definition.

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If my opion is so crazy as you claim, read some more crazy stuff.

In his 1789 article, Ramsay first explained who the “original citizens” were and then defined the “natural born citizens” as the children born in the country to citizen parents.


12 posted on 04/02/2010 2:33:41 PM PDT by presently no screen name ( Repeal ZEROcare!)
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To: presently no screen name

The word “dregs” is a mistranslation—there is a French word spelled like that which means “dregs,” but here it is the past participle of the verb “lier” (meaning “bound” or “connected” and spelled with an accent over the “e”).


14 posted on 04/02/2010 2:44:26 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: presently no screen name

Two Presidents before Obama, not counting those who were citizens at the time of the adoption of the Constitution, had a parent who was not born in the US—Chester Arthur (whose father was born in Northern Ireland) and Woodrow Wilson (whose mother was born in Carlisle, England). I don’t know if Arthur’s father or Wilson’s mother were formally naturalized. Wilson’s mother lived in the US from the age of 4. Arthur’s father lived in Quebec before coming to the US, and some people claimed that Chester Arthur was actually born across the border in Canada rather than in northern Vermont.


15 posted on 04/02/2010 2:51:47 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: presently no screen name

When duh After-Birthers are hit with new information that hammers their ignorant position, they go into a wait state until they receive new talking points.


27 posted on 04/02/2010 3:07:51 PM PDT by Red Steel
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Ramsays arguments were rejected by the first Congress. The opposition debate was lead by James Madison, who said in response to Ramsay, “It is an established maxim, that birth is a criterion of allegiance. Birth, however, derives its force sometimes from place, and sometimes from parentage; but, in general place is the most certain criterion; it is what applies in the United States.”

http://memory.loc.gov/cgi-bin/ampage?collId=llsp&fileName=037/llsp037.db&recNum=15

Oops. That should pretty well settle that. Those who actually wrote the Constitution rejected the notion that citizen parents were required to be a natural born citizen.


188 posted on 04/05/2011 7:28:51 PM PDT by mystylplx
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