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To: rxsid

I’ve got a question for natural born citizen experts here. The first Republican candidate, John C. Fremont, was born out of wedlock to a American woman and Frenchman living in the United States. He received 33 percent of the popular vote in the election of 1856, carrying 11 states, losing to James Buchanan. At any time, either during the Republican primary or the general election, was his status as a natural born citizen questioned?


100 posted on 04/02/2010 6:54:13 PM PDT by Kleon
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To: Kleon

Was his status widely known? Chester Arthur’s wasn’t...until 2008.


102 posted on 04/02/2010 6:55:46 PM PDT by rxsid (HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
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To: Kleon

An interesting, but moot point because Fremont was neither elected nor sworn in as the US President.....

What this does illustrate is that our system for insuring that a Presidential candidate meets the Constitutional requirements is flawed. (Is there any system?)

Maybe we need a way to verify eligability before a candidate can be put on the ballot......... just saying.....


113 posted on 04/02/2010 7:50:45 PM PDT by Forty-Niner ((.))
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To: Kleon

Pretty sure the status of the child follows that of the mother for an out of wedlock birth. That is, if the mother is a citizen, and the child is born in the country, then the child is a natural born citizen.


116 posted on 04/02/2010 8:01:39 PM PDT by El Gato ("The second amendment is the reset button of the US constitution"-Doug McKay)
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To: Kleon
you have a good point. It seems reasonable to me that his father was a naturalized US citizen, as the election of 1856 was hotly contested-slavery vs no slavery and much was brought up about Fremont's birth, but I saw nothing concerning NBC (as of yet) I am unsure when his father came to the US and in the 1790’s he could have been a citizen just by taking an oath off the ship he came on..

http://www.stlgs.org/natProcess.htm

interesting enough the 1856 election Republicans worried about the huge fraudulent naturalization of aliens in Pennsylvania(by democrats) in return for their votes..

see the footnote #10 at page 139 from link below. Some interesting reading about Fremont and the election and his birth controversy

http://books.google.com/books?id=sYFVlFO5D0EC&pg=PA117&lpg=PA117&dq=charles+fremon&source=bl&ots=PZwtIFWwJM&sig=n4MXYGcyqvNhPPQ0JIE5XWvy-1Y&hl=en&ei=mKu2S6zdB4iSsgOhj5iXBA&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=2&ved=0CAcQ6AEwATgK#v=onepage&q=charles%20fremon&f=false

122 posted on 04/02/2010 8:09:36 PM PDT by rolling_stone (no more bailouts, the taxpayers are out of money!)
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To: Kleon

As for why American’s in 1856, may or may not (you’ve given no sources) have questioned his status...the obvious answer would be, you’d need to ask them. As was already pointed out, it’s a moot issue as he wasn’t elected POTUS. Anyone, even a resident alien green card holder, can run for POTUS. There is no Constitutional requirement that one must be NBC in order to run for office.


137 posted on 04/02/2010 9:22:17 PM PDT by rxsid (HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
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