[edge919]

This doesn’t say anything about whether a court is considered to have competent jurisdiction or not. What you cited says a court (or judge) has to specifically sign off on a subpoena in order to force the release of nonconsensual reords, and that a prosecutor can’t do so on independently, which undercuts a claim you made earlier.

As for having competent jurisdiction, a local court in Indiana or New York or Arizona could potentially be deemed NOT to have such in a criminal case against the president, since Congress is the only body that can impeach a president. As far as an investigation by the justice department would be concerned, it would have to be ordered by the executive, most likely because of a Congressional request. But we know that won’t happen because we know who controls the justice department and Congress (at the moment).

[jamese777]

This doesn’t say anything about whether a court is considered to have competent jurisdiction or not. What you cited says a court (or judge) has to specifically sign off on a subpoena in order to force the release of nonconsensual reords, and that a prosecutor can’t do so on independently, which undercuts a claim you made earlier.

As for having competent jurisdiction, a local court in Indiana or New York or Arizona could potentially be deemed NOT to have such in a criminal case against the president, since Congress is the only body that can impeach a president. As far as an investigation by the justice department would be concerned, it would have to be ordered by the executive, most likely because of a Congressional request. But we know that won’t happen because we know who controls the justice department and Congress (at the moment).

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I think you should read the definition of an order from a court of competent jurisdiction one more time because it covers the exact way that Dr. Fukino, Dr. Onaka and Obama’s original birth records could end up before a Grand Jury.
Yes, indeed, it would be wonderful if the Republican Attorney General of Hawaii, Mark L. Bennett was willing to take this on, but he’s not so perhaps someday another jurisdiction will at least conduct a fishing expedition into whether Obama’s COLB was forged, altered or fraudulent and that would be a criminal matter not a civil matter.
IF there were ever to be an indictment for forgery or fraud that could set the stage for an impeachment investigation.
If Neil Abercrombie, Obama’s buddy becomes the next Governor of Hawaii, forget anything having to do with his birth certificate. I wish someone would at least try the criminal route while Republicans are in the Governor’s mansion and are the Attorney General.
Ye, you are correct that an out of state subpoena COULD be rejected but we’ll never know until someone at least tries.