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To: jamese777
“Despite widespread popular belief, U.S. military installations abroad and U.S. diplomatic or consular facilities are not part of the United States within the meaning of the 14th Amendment. A child born on the premises of such a facility is not subject to the jurisdiction of the United States and does not acquire U.S. citizenship by reason of birth.”

And here is the salient point made from all of your posting. His child was not a natural born citizen as to he was not completely subjected to the jurisdiction of the United States. Germany made a claim on him.

Germany passed a new dual citizenship law and as of January 1, 2000, those who were “born in Germany to non-German parents before February 2, 1990 have no claim to German citizenship.”

But Germany did make a claim on his citizenship. His child was under the allegiance of a foreign power. He could be subjected again to Germany just by them passing another statute because of the nature of his birth on foreign soil, their soil.

242 posted on 03/12/2010 2:50:50 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: Red Steel

“Despite widespread popular belief, U.S. military installations abroad and U.S. diplomatic or consular facilities are not part of the United States within the meaning of the 14th Amendment. A child born on the premises of such a facility is not subject to the jurisdiction of the United States and does not acquire U.S. citizenship by reason of birth.”
And here is the salient point made from all of your posting. His child was not a natural born citizen as to he was not completely subjected to the jurisdiction of the United States. Germany made a claim on him.

Germany passed a new dual citizenship law and as of January 1, 2000, those who were “born in Germany to non-German parents before February 2, 1990 have no claim to German citizenship.”

But Germany did make a claim on his citizenship. His child was under the allegiance of a foreign power. He could be subjected again to Germany just by them passing another statute because of the nature of his birth on foreign soil, their soil.


However under US law, the son has born citizenship in the United States by virtue of “jus sanguinis” rather than “jus soli” (place of birth).
The U.S. recognizes citizenship according to two fundamental principles: jus soli (right of birthplace), and jus sanguinis (right of blood). Under jus soli, a person receives American citizenship by virtue of being born in the United States. By contrast, jus sanguinis confers citizenship on those born to at least one U.S. citizen anywhere in the world. A person who does not qualify under either of these principles may seek U.S. citizenship through the process of naturalization.

If the son does not have naturalization papers, he is a born citizen of the United States.


248 posted on 03/12/2010 3:20:22 PM PST by jamese777
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