Pillsbury,
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Posted on 02/23/2010 8:02:16 AM PST by butterdezillion
It would be easier and safer just to show the 100% correct physical copy to McCain's lawyers and the WSJ and other press. That would have ended the issue permanently.
Before the 2008 presidential election only political neophytes were aware of the issue at all. After the election the continued presence of the eligibility issue for Obama only increased the Administration's opposition's intensity, it does not help boost democratic turnout.
You have the evidence thing backwards, a DC Quo Warrento case, once launched by a DC judge, would force discovery.
Then the 2008 Campaign COLB will be an issue and will force Obama to produce a Onaka DOH certified physical copy of what ever is on Obama’s actual COLB data, as well as all his other ID documents IMHO, e.g. passport(s).
It is The special nature of a DC Quo Warrento case that will spotlight all the ID document issues. I have doubts that the Judge will accept Orly as an "interested" party as detailed by congressional statute authorizing DC courts to use Quo Warrento granted powers. However, it can't be ruled out because another judge has sanctioned her, challenging her to put up or shut up. The DC Judge has Jurisdiction. The Justice department has allready admitted that in Obama v Barnett. Even to have got to the point of a Quo Warrento case being filed in DC is proof that using a Composite made up COLB in 2008 was a crazy risk to take. Unless revealing the actual COLB data would have been worse.
Well, I believe I did
too many similarities. I have no picture, I remember no name.
But if any of these pogues can show me any other 18 or 19 year old Mulatto male born in Mombassa and raised in Indonesia who was living in Hawaii...bring the lad forth.
You indeed had a sighting.
Another bit of evidence - that he knew where he was born, too. How conveeeenient that all his relatives that would know are dead.
Maybe his half sister knows.
If you aren't pinging me, I apologize. If you are pinging me, regardless of the source of the list, remove my name. If you are too dull witted to figure out how to do that, Freepmail me, and I'll walk you through it.
There’s one other thing. Place of birth wouldn’t have had to be what was amended, if place of birth was also supported by supplementary information.
So it could well be that the original birth certificate - including place of birth - was based solely on affidavits (which would mean it was NOT filed by either SAD, BHO, or a doctor). If that was the case then Fukino would need to refer to records (plural) to verify place of birth even if something else was amended.
Whatever was amended was through a document that didn’t have a doctor’s, midwife’s, or nurse’s signature on it, if Okubo gave me an accurate response to a UIPA request (big if, I know).
Does anybody know if pages from medical files have signatures on them? Like if I asked for a copy of a page from my chart - maybe symptoms I had reported or something like that - would there be a signature on that?
If my baby was born at home in Ohio and we immediately moved to Missouri, where he had his well-baby check-ups, would the Missouri doctor ask ME (myself) for birth information such as birth length, weight, head circumference, etc since there was no doctor’s examination from Ohio?
Right. I think it’s interesting that Obama’s and SAD’s travel records have been sealed by the Dept of Homeland Security because they pose a national security risk...
At least that’s what I remember reading from the guy who requested the records. Last I knew all that was available was a small portion of SAD’s travel records. Somebody correct me if I’m not remembering correctly - which is very possible since I haven’t kept up on that end of things.
And Hawaii UIPA responses have confirmed that what they have for Obama’s birth claims are not prima facie evidence.
We have produced proof that the claims in Hawaii that he was born in Hawaii do not qualify as prima facie evidence.
IOW, the Kenyan birth certificates have just as much legal veracity as everything in Hawaii’s Department of Health.
We aren’t able to look and see what’s in Kenya or to have Kenya tell us whether the indexed location on the Kenya BC is accurate so we have no way of producing proof positive of a birth in Kenya (much less Canada).
But we have done that process with Hawaii and we know that what is there does NOT pass legal muster.
I’d say that’s serious.
But if the birth was in Hawaii and if medical care was such a concern, then why is there a need for affidavits and/or supplementary documents for his BC? She had 3 months to have the baby seen and any missing medical information added to the BC without there being any note of there being an amendment or a delayed certificate.
In Hawaii in 1961 there is exactly ONE non-white baby in Honolulu that for sure had a birth certificate with no birth weight listed. There were other babies who had unattended births but they had birth weights listed because the normal procedure was for a baby to receive medical care soon after birth even if the birth was unattended. In such a case no amendments would be needed.
Why wasn’t that the case for Obama? He can’t have had a birth attended by a Hawaii doctor and can’t have received an examination from a Hawaii doctor for the first 3 months of life.
What story works, given that scenario?
You poo-pooh the evidence we have, but only because you are too lazy to consider what it means, given the requirements at the time.
There’s no doubt he visits the other side occasionally.
I guess she couldn't wait to meet Obama Sr.'s Kenyan wife and child.
Geez, lighten up.
Now their argument/s boils down to “no controlling legal authority”, more or less.
It worked for Dems before.
Pillsbury,
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Obama’s mom was a tramp and a whore. She traveled the world shacking up with anything that wasn’t bolted down. She kicked her own kid to the curb to pursue her hedonist globe-trotting lifestyle.
*pops thorazine tabs *
Nah Nah....she would never run away from her loving home to Kenya or anywhere else for that matter. No way. *hic* *burp*
He said he wasn’t well and was staying with family. I think he’s isn’t well *upstairs*, if you know what I mean. Not playing with a full deck 99% of the time.
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