Just as you can't ascertain whether or not I have a favorable opinion of the home-schooled kids receiving socialization benefits from mine, I can't determine if your statement is a claim that socialization isn't indeed a benefit of public schools.
I've heard people opposed to homeschooling use the socialization argument as a pro for public schools, only to have homeschoolers toss it back at them when a child is bullied, molested, etc, etc, in a public school.
Just trying to determine if you're painting with an equally broad brush. For the record, I'm not. My kids attend public school because our schools are excellent. If we were forced to live in a less desirable district, however, we would likely seek an alternative education method.
It wasn’t my original statement. It was wintertime’s. But I will answer you anyway.
I think that kids are socialized in public school, some of it is positive, some neutral but a lot of negative.
Even if it isn’t negative socializaton, it isn’t the type of socialization that I desire for my children. It is culture and peer driven. I want the socialization of my children to be biblically and adult driven. I don’t want them influenced by popular culture, music, dating, clothing trends etc. I don’t want them artifically seperated by age and sex. I don’t want them divided from their siblings. I don’t want them to value the friendship and advice of their peers over that of their parents and sibling. I don’t want them making unhealthy friendships or romantic relationships of ANY kind.
My children are the best of friends and the older help care for the younger. They don’t go to their own rooms and get on computers or phones to talk to their friends. They play with their sibling and parents. When we socialize with friends we do it as a family. The older include and look out for the younger. They play games and enjoy converstion with the adults.
We are youth pastors and see the danger of youth culture everyday. The above scenario is not common and it doesn’t happen by accident.
I hope that explains it.
Is the following excellent?
**ALL government schools are atheistic and godless in their worldview. All government schools teach children to think godlessly and to evaluate everything in their school day in a godless manner.
** All government schools are a freedom of conscience and First Amendment abomination. All government schools trash the child's ( and indirectly the parent's ) freedom of speech, press, free expression of religion, and assembly. Since it is IMPOSSIBLE for any school to be religiously neutral government schools at the moment are establishing the religious worldview of godless atheism.
** All government schools treat children like prisoners. Children are isolated from the community in buildings that could easily be confused with a minimum security prison. It is the government who determines with whom the will or will not assemble ( a First Amendment violation). The government tells them when they will eat, rest, exercise ( and even dictates acceptable and non-acceptable exercise) and use of the bathroom. Their school buses look like prison work gang buses.
** In many ways the social dysfunction of school gangs and cliques resemble prison protection gangs. Thankfully, humans are adaptable and most adults finally unlearn the socially corrosive survival habits learned in school and do move on to healthy and cooperative relationships in work, family, marriage, with their extended family, and neighbors. Sadly some do not and suffer emotionally and economically all their lives.
**In ALL government schools those Christian teachers who try to sneak in a little Christian philosophy into the godless curriculum are merely teaching the children that Christians are sneaky. Those Christian teachers who do not try to sneak in a little Christianity merely teach the children that Christians are hypocrites who will sell their soul and principles for a paycheck and pension.
**ALL government schools teach socialism. Merely by attending children learn that the government has the power to take money from their neighbor ( by police force if necessary) to pay for a service their parents want for tuition-free. And...Their government indoctrinators teach the children that it is their **right** to have government take money from their neighbor for their schooling. Well!...If the government can take money from a neighbor to pay for tuition-free schools why not a thousand other “free” wants and needs?
** NO government school is religiously, politically, or culturally neutral. This is axiomatic since it is IMPOSSIBLE to have a religiously, politically, or culturally neutral school. No matter what the government chooses to do **ALL** government schools will establish the religion, politics, and culture of some and actively trash that of others.
**Therefore...ALL government schools are a freedom of conscience and First Amendment abomination.
** All government schools forbid free exercise of religious belief, therefore, ALL government schools teach children to compartmentalize their faith into public and private spheres. ALL government schools teach children that religion is somehow shameful and must be hidden as if it were a bathroom activity.
**Since ALL government schools teach children ( who have committed no crime) like prisoners, ALL government schools are teaching children to be good little compliant workers for the fascist state.
Finally,...There are some ways in which prisons are better than government schools. Prison bathrooms are likely to be safer and cleaner than those in a government school, and prisons are far less segregated by race, age, and economic class.
So?....What were you saying about “excellent” government schools?
Look closer. If you've looked at all yet; and it doesn't sound like you have.