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To: Red Steel

If these trolls who subvert discussions about 0bama’s eligibility - especially the ones who say all the legal attempts are wrong, stupid, and so on, were asked;

What would you recommend? Legally, how would you go about proving his ineligibility, since you are a smart lawyer or know all about legal stuff and can point out all the flaws in these other cases?

They will say nothing. They don’t want him out.


522 posted on 01/07/2010 2:51:35 PM PST by little jeremiah (Asato Ma Sad Gamaya Tamaso Ma Jyotir Gamaya)
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To: little jeremiah
No. Most of us would answer that, whether we like him or not, Obama is, in fact, eligible to be President. We might further say that it is dishonest, dishonorable, and fruitless to expend effort pushing a proposition that not only can't succeed, but which is also false. That it behooves us to behave with dignity, intellectual honesty, and useful purpose in opposing the initiatives of this administration while seeking to elect their opponents.

I have seen several people who disagree with much of this stuff propose their own alternatives. James777 (?) comes to mind. I think Buckeye Texan (?) has a proposal, too. I myself have suggested that, if you really want to see a birth certificate to your liking, you work to get laws passed in individual states for 2012. I don't think that will yield the result you want, but I would not mock it as it would at least be a coherent activity with an achievable objective.

Birthers seem to operate from the principle that Obama cannot be allowed to be President, so this issue must be real. They then confuse opposing this issue with love for Obama. Simply looking at the facts and the cases proposed as they lay indicates to me this issue is nonsense. I tell that, in perhaps more diplomatic terms, to prospective clients at regular intervals. I am not the type of advocate who will string you along on a hopeless case just to collect my fee.

526 posted on 01/07/2010 3:07:14 PM PST by tired_old_conservative
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To: little jeremiah

Eventually one of these cases should go to court on the merits, which may happen when Obama is out of office. The Quo Warranto case brought by Pidgeon and Donofrio may break through against Obama as their clients standing.


532 posted on 01/07/2010 3:52:14 PM PST by Red Steel
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