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To: STE=Q
He leaves the question of children born to a foreign national — being NATURAL/NATIVE born — in a state of DOUBT.

No, he acknowledges that some doubt. He neither agrees or disagrees with them. And considering that wasn't an issue before the court at the time, it's understandable that he didn't address the issue of defining natural-born citizen.

Birthers are also in a state of DOUBT as to Obamas Natural Born Citizen status as he TOO was born with a foreign National for a father.

No kidding. But you have no basis for supporting your doubt, other than your own opinion.

THEREFORE: ‘BIRTHERS’ PLEAD THAT OBAMA AND OR THE COURTS REMOVE THOSE DOUBTS.

Good luck with that one.

519 posted on 01/07/2010 2:31:53 PM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: Non-Sequitur; Red Steel
... he acknowledges that some doubt.(sic)

No, he -- Chief Justice Waite -- "acknowledges" a lot of doubt.

He uses the word doubt TWO times in referring to those that hold the view -- that you yourself ADMITTEDLY hold -- that one born in the united states, with a foreign national, for his/her father, is a Natural Born Citizen.

However -- as you have indicated to ALL on this forum -- the Question of Obama's citizenship is, in your OPINION, settled law.

By the way, when Justice Waite writes about the opinion YOU hold he uses the term "SOME" authorities... etc.

Do you understand the import of the word SOME in logic?

When Justice Waite writes about the opinion "Birthers" hold -- born in the country of citizen parents (PLURAL)-- he says (Paraphrase) "of this class there has never been doubt," meanining, ALL (not SOME) agree: that one born in the country, of citizen parents(Plural)are Natural Born citizens.

Your "opinion" is, indeed, the minority one!

Does that mean that your minority view is necessarily wrong?

NO!

However, it does mean that YOUR "opinion" as to what makes a Natural Born Citizen (born in country with a foreign national for father)is in a state of uncertainty, or DOUBT; whereas, the "opinion" of the birthers (born in country, both parents citizens)is certain, or -- as Chief Justice Waite said (paraphrase) -- "of this class there can be NO doubt!

Thus, Birthers are on solid ground where the "opinion" of anti-birthers are fraught with doubt!

In review of the above it would seem that the onus would be on those with the shaky position to prove their case, rather than the ones -- whom ALL authorities agree -- are on solid ground.

I'm afraid that born in the country to two citizen parents(NO DOUBT AS TO NATURAL BORN STATUS)trumps born in country with a foreign national for father.(DOUBTS AS TO NATURAL BORN STATUS)

We're done here...

STE=Q

551 posted on 01/07/2010 7:24:28 PM PST by STE=Q ("It is the duty of the patriot to protect his country from its government" ... Thomas Paine)
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