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To: rolling_stone
Un, it's called the march of progress in a capitalistic society. or something like that. I think Reagan used to talk about such things.

“Long forms

Sample of a long form birth certificateLong forms, also known as certified photocopies, book copies, and photostat copies, are exact photocopies of the original birth record that was prepared by the hospital or attending physician at the time of the child's birth. The long form usually includes parents’ information (address of residence, race, birth place, date of birth, etc.), additional information on the child's birthplace, and information on the doctors who assisted in the birth of the child. The long form also usually includes the signature of the doctor involved and at least one of the parents.

Long forms may become obsolete in years to come, as many states have begun to use Electronic Birth Registration systems. The use of these systems will enable information typically seen on certified copies (long forms) to be available in computer databases that typically issue short form certificates, thus eliminating the need for “hard copy” long form certificates and having all birth information stored in computer databases only. This benefits parents in many ways; registration can be completed via computer at the hospital, meaning that parents can stop by their Vital Statistics office on the way home from the hospital to purchase the birth certificate instantly. It also means that the extra cost for long form certificates will no longer be a factor.

Short forms

Sample of a short form birth certificate (certification of birth)Short forms, known sometimes as computer certifications, are not universally available, but are cheaper than photocopies and much more easily accessible. Information is taken from the original birth record (the long form) and stored in a database that can be accessed quickly when birth certificates are needed in a short amount of time. Whereas the long form is a copy of the actual birth certificate, a short form is a document that certifies the existence of such certificate, and is given a title such as “Certification of Birth”, “Certification of Live Birth”, or “Certificate of Birth Registration”. The short form typically includes the child's name, date of birth, sex, and place of birth, although some also include the names of the child's parents. When the certification does include the names of the parents, it can be used in lieu of a long form birth certificate in almost all circumstances. Nearly all states in the U.S. issue short forms certifications, on both state and local levels.”

But, yeah, despite the fact that Hawaii went paperless in 2001, they specifically changed everything they do in June of 2009 to protect their nefarious state-wide conspiracy over Obama’s birth. That's so much more logical and straight forward than simply accepting Obama was born in Hawaii like the state says.

295 posted on 01/06/2010 1:56:53 PM PST by tired_old_conservative
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To: tired_old_conservative
Discussing with you is a joke. You avoid all questions you don't like and try and divert the focus to unrelated issues. The fact Remains Obama can get a copy of his original birth certificate from Hawaii. Do you agree yes or no?

Do you find it odd that Hawaii will not answer what date filed and date accepted mean?

Do you not find the timing of the Homelands change of requiring a long form to be June 2009 when the Obama issue heated up? Since Hawaii went “paperless” in 2001 why the wait?

Do you know why a long form is desirable over a short form?

Did you know the State Department will not accept short form BC’s from California, Texas and some other areas for passport applications? Why? If Obamas Hawaii BC is shown to be problematic, do you think the State Department will put them on the same list?

I realize you are old and tired, but use some common sense and logic please, this is not DU where emotions and subterfuge rule the day.
regards
rs

302 posted on 01/06/2010 2:24:23 PM PST by rolling_stone (no more bailouts, the taxpayers are out of money!)
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