The campaign did. It conforms to what Hawaii issues and Hawaii doesn't dispute it, which they are legally allowed and obligated to do if someone offers fraudulent state documents. It is over for the rest of the country.
“Oh wait! That shit is under lock and key, or maybe is isn’t there at all.”
Hawaii has stated they have the original documentation. It is governed by privacy regulations, the same as yours or mine.
“How the hell did he he get to Indonesia and Paaaackistan without a passport?”
He didn't. He would have had a passport.
“I don’t let small facts get in the way.”
I'd say you don't let any facts get in your way.
Do you have a passport? (be honest)
I will agree that there is no compelling evidence that Obama was born in Kenya.
I will agree that there is no simple, easy, readily available consensus that as a Dual-born, Obama is not NBC.
I disagree that we can call a case “a non-starter” that seeks a ruling from the courts as to whether a dual-born citizen like Obama can actually be eligible. I think that the courts should be pushed and should be willing to render an answer on whether NBC should be interpreted as reflecting Vattel’s sentiment or not, but I will chalk that disagreement up to a matter of opinion.
I will agree that the executive order for record concealment has probably been misunderstood by some birthers.
I will agree that there’s no law on the books requiring a Candidate or presumed President to hand over a Birth Certificate or other documents to prove he is a citizen.
I will agree that the HI Governor never “sealed up the certificate in a special vault.”
But here’s why I tend to think of you guys as trolls. How do you come up with this?:
It conforms to what Hawaii issues and Hawaii doesn't dispute it, which they are legally allowed and obligated to do if someone offers fraudulent state documents.REALLY?! If I went to get a driver’s license, and when asked for a Birth Certificate, I said, “You can view it online. I have it as a hi-res .jpg saved from photoshop at this URL: www . . . “. You would expect that my online image should be regarded as conforming and legally sufficient?
Tired_old_conservative gets sloppy in post 89
REALLY?! Do you think Hawaii Dept of Health would describe themselves as legally obligated to step in and say, “No, that image on the web does not accurately reflect the records we have on file?” How does that fit with their constant insistence that they cannot legally comment on whether or not the online short-form COLB is accurate? Do you suppose it’s their policy to withhold verification on documents that are accurate, while at the same time, being obligated to declare any frauds to be frauds? “Well, we can’t legally verify it as accurate, but if it were inaccurate we’d tell you instantly.” That’s almost as dumb as Patrickl saying, “The certificate of birth that is supported by the current Republican Governor of Hawaii.” What?
Ok, I’m sure you’ve given good logical explanations to this that I’ve heretofore missed, so just give me a link if that’s all you have time for. If you don’t have a good answer for this sloppiness, retract your statement or else further solidify your place on the troll list.
The maneuvering of the Hawaii DOH makes me think more than anything else that there is something troubling about Obama’s birth records, and I don’t think they are applying their own laws fairly on this matter. Given the tremendous strain they’ve been under in terms of records requests and the need to make strange, cryptic public statements about Obama’s records, and the need to rework their web site and terminology to deal with Obama questions, I simply can’t see how we should conclude that there is nothing to hide. If what he has on his long-form COLB is exactly what is reflected by his short-form COLB, why in heaven’s name has HDOH not found a way to say so. Even if it is a stretch of their rules (which I think it isn’t) to provide verification, do they fear retribution for merely verifying that what Obama says as truth. Who do they think will sue them, or what court will penalize their officers? Given the full story about the DOH machinations, I think the most reasonable, logical conclusion is that there is something to hide.
Do you really think that HDOH is totally playing this one straight?
You tired old fart - he has MANY passports just as he has many many Social Insurance numbers. THINK for a minute could you? CO