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To: Danae
The founders considered it an issue of National Security. See the Federalist Papers number 68. They put the distinction in because the best way to assure the loyalty of a person is to know that they are solely a native of the nation and of no other. The founders did not wan a Commander in Chief of the armed forces who could be potentially compromised.

And I'm not disputing that. Perhaps a question is the best way to explain:

If Hugo Chavez declared Sarah Palin as a natural born citizen of Venezuela, with all the rights and responsibilities of that same citizenship, would she be barred from seeking the Presidency?

Answer that question, and you have answered the issue with Arthur and Obama in terms of their legal status regarding election to the Presidency.

48 posted on 12/14/2009 8:24:25 AM PST by PugetSoundSoldier (Indignation over the Sting of Truth is the defense of the indefensible)
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To: PugetSoundSoldier

Absolutely not.

What mattered was what she had in the instant of her Birth. It is hereditary, or its not. Now if she VOLUNTARILY gave up U.S. citizenship to take Venezuelan, which she would have to do because the U.S. does not recognize dual citizenship with that Nation, then she would lose that natural born status. But she would have to choose to give it up. Chavez just offering up citizenship in and of itself is irrelevant.


53 posted on 12/14/2009 8:27:32 AM PST by Danae (No political party should pick candidates. That's the voters job.)
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To: PugetSoundSoldier
If Hugo Chavez declared Sarah Palin as a natural born citizen of Venezuela, with all the rights and responsibilities of that same citizenship, would she be barred from seeking the Presidency?

No, she was born in the US of two US citizen parents, what Hugo might blather about is of no import.

Answer that question, and you have answered the issue with Arthur and Obama in terms of their legal status regarding election to the Presidency.

Not at all, niether of them was born of two US citizen parents. It's a very objective test. The only real exception/ambiguity applies when the child is born of two us citizen parents, but not on US soil. In which case it depends on why they are not on US soil. If one or both are diplomats or soliders then the child is still natural born. Otherwise, probably not.

But in Arthur and Obama's cases, that is not a factor, they don't meet the two citizen parents test.

162 posted on 12/14/2009 1:58:55 PM PST by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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