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To: Tublecane

British common law is what all the liberal progressives use as claim to their argument that the founders used english common law when defining citizen for the people of the new country.

but as we have also noted in the past, founder & delegate to the Contitental Congress Charles Pickney stated:

“What better way to insure attachment to the country than to require the President to have his American citizenship through his American Father and not through a foreign father. Any child can be born anywhere in the country and be removed by their father to be raised in his native country. The risks would be for the child to return later in life to reside in this country bringing with him foreign influences and intrigues.”

BHO spent quite a bit of time living abroad during his formative years and that shows, without question, in his actions and symapthies to Islamic terrorists. He hid his muslim heritage & studies from the public with the help of the lame stream media and now we have a president who puts terrorists & enemies ahead of our soldiers and allies.

Our founding fathers were wise and knew of the inherent harm to the country should the executive have foreign influences and today we are seeing it happen 1st hand.

As far as Chester Arthur, he was a decorated soldier who fought under Lincoln as McCain did his service during Vietnam, but did that excuse them, absolutely not. Arthur got away with it and had McCain been elected, we would still be going through the same process, trying to remove an ineligible president according to the supreme law of the land, the US Constitution.

This is not about party politics, this is about the LAW.


134 posted on 12/14/2009 11:13:53 AM PST by patlin (1st SCOTUS of USA: "Human life, from its commencement to its close, is protected by the common law.")
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To: patlin

“BHO spent quite a bit of time living abroad during his formative years and that shows, without question, in his actions and symapthies to Islamic terrorists...This is not about party politics, this is about the LAW.”

Everything you say about Obama’s muslim sympathies isn’t about the law. It’s about politics. He didn’t go overseas with his foreign-born father, did he? No, it was with his American-born mother. Your concern is really not about the law. It’s about not liking Obama.


139 posted on 12/14/2009 11:35:33 AM PST by Tublecane
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To: patlin
had McCain been elected, we would still be going through the same process, trying to remove an ineligible president according to the supreme law of the land, the US Constitution

Actually probably not. McCain had two citizen parents, and he was born when his father was in the service of the country. Vattel, section 217, explicity indicates (in context with preceedings sections) that such persons are "natural born".

For the same reasons also, children born out of the country, in the armies of the state, or in the house of its minister at a foreign court, are reputed born in the country; for a citizen who is absent with his family, on the service of the state, but still dependent on it, and subject to its jurisdiction, cannot be considered as having quitted its territory.

173 posted on 12/14/2009 2:58:45 PM PST by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: patlin
had McCain been elected, we would still be going through the same process, trying to remove an ineligible president according to the supreme law of the land, the US Constitution

Actually probably not. McCain had two citizen parents, and he was born when his father was in the service of the country. Vattel, section 217, explicity indicates (in context with preceedings sections) that such persons are "natural born".

For the same reasons also, children born out of the country, in the armies of the state, or in the house of its minister at a foreign court, are reputed born in the country; for a citizen who is absent with his family, on the service of the state, but still dependent on it, and subject to its jurisdiction, cannot be considered as having quitted its territory.

BTW, do you have a citation for that Pickney statement? It's murder for the Obummer crowd, and I would like to use it., IOW, not just when but where, he said or wrote that.

174 posted on 12/14/2009 3:06:56 PM PST by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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