[Jack Black]

Ron Paul is a Paleo Con. Free Republic is run by and mostly home to Neo Cons and Establi Cons. Paul sounds like WW2 conservatives, who opposed American involvement and the entire new deal. And the Fed. Goldwater oppposed most of the civil rights movement.

Freepers are pro Palin. We don’t know her stand on the Fed or the New deal or affirmative action or much of anything else.

[ChrisInAR]

Freepers are pro Palin. We don’t know her stand on the Fed or the New deal or affirmative action or much of anything else.

Not this FReeper...not yet, anyway. You're right, I have no knowledge on where she stands on most issues, other than she is pro-life & pro-drill here, drill now; but being from Alasska, of course she would support the latter.

Does she have the same respect for the Constitution that Rep. Paul does? Does she advocate a return to the 10th Amendment & giving the States their rightful powers under the Constitution? Does she believe that our armed forces are to be used for DEFENSIVE purposes, rather than the current NeoCon view of making the world "safe for democracy"? Inquiring minds would like to know!

[Lucius Cornelius Sulla]

Goldwater opposed most of the civil rights movement.

Goldwater was a founder of the Phoenix NAACP.

[editor-surveyor]

Neo-cons are cons for sure; cons of confidence game! (hopefully soon to be cons of the Convict strain)

[BlackElk]

JB: Barry Goldwater also integrated the Arizona Air National Guard long before integration was expected. Goldwater took a credibly consistent and conservative and constitutionalist stand on civil rights. His vote against the Civil Rights Act of 1964 was explained by him in purchased national TV advertising as being based on what he viewed as the freedom of restaurants and hotels and other privately owned "public" accommodations to hurt their own businesses by refusing service to blacks. History has not been kind to that argument but it was quite respectable in the context of the times. I have not been a fan of Goldwater for many years because of his familial connection with Planned Barrenhood, support of abortion, defense of homosexuality, craven behavior toward Reagan, etc., but fair is fair. He was no enemy of civil rights as he usually proved.

Paul is like Neville Chamberlain, a coward, self-delusional, utterly wrong on foreign and military policy and someone who gives not a rat's patoot about the lives and well-being of those unjustly slaughtered and oppressed. We are a nation of grown ups and not a nation of cowards like Paul and Chamberlain.

Meanwhile, no less an isolationist group of delusionals than the America First Committee grew up instantly on December 7, 1941 and folded its tent declaring solidarity with the response of Americans to retaliate for Pearl Harbor. Neither the Executive Director (John Flynn) nor the money guy Colonel McCormack nor Colonel Lindberg nor any significant leader resisted thereafter and Lindberg actually sought and belatedly received a restored commission and a role in the war.

Opposing the New Deal was a separate issue and the conservatives of that era opposed the New Deal as most of us oppose Cap and Tax and Obamacare but Chamberlain would never recover his reputation for patriotism and neither will Paul (who became paleosurrenderman AFTER the war began) nor should either.

You can call me a "NeoCon" even though I am a lifelong Catholic in my 60s. The NeoCons are a mostly dead group of mostly Jewish and ex-leftist intellectuals, the survivors nearing their 90s. I gather that "EstabliCons" are those who can be nominated for high office by actual political parties (especially the GOP). I am not running for anything nor will I but I am as likely to be nominated as paleoPaulie (namely not at all).