Posted on 10/26/2009 4:01:28 PM PDT by Ryde
>>Tell me, can Jewish military personnel wear a yarmulke?<<
Military<>Private business.
When you join the Military you give up ALL your USC rights and agree to be bound by the UCMJ. Now, much of the UCMJ is base on application of the USC, but it is different and dang near absolute.
Military folk, bear me out on this...
>>This college has just initiated a policy where they require their students to work for 75 hours for a third-party for free. <<
yep. If they don’t like it, they can leave, as with any school policy. No one is forcing anyone to do anything.
Sometime life sucks. If you are an Exempt (Salaried) Management employee and your boss tells you you will be working weekends for the next 10 weeks, you have 2 choices: work the weekends or quit.
Same thing here.
The poster said the college just "initiated" the requirement, which implies that said requirement was not in effect for students who had previously enrolled. If the existing students have a graduation agreement that lists the courses required for a particular degree program, then that constitutes a contract of sorts, and students pay for classes in return for credit for those classes. Unlike most contracts though, the terms are rather loose, as college costs seem to be caught in a strong updraft.
In my opinion, every student subjected to the "new" requirements could legitimately sue the school for breach of contract, and in a just world win their cases. I would encourage them to sue for breach of contract, for every penny they had ever paid to the school, plus damages , and whatever they could squeeze out of a jury for the school's violation of basic civil rights.
Communists have no qualms about suing productive citizens and companies day in and day out. It's the only way communists could exist -- leeching off the productive.
It's high time the citizens start using the same tactics against the non-productive communists. The school provides a list of organizations, probably all fellow communist outfits, from which the students can choose.
This stuff is not new. Public elementary schools have been sending their kids around to raise money for their communist causes for ages. No decent person, and certainly no conservative, supports this kind of crap. It is conditioning students to become mindless servants of a communist collective.
It really isn't a matter of contract law. You know this, and are misdirecting for some reason. Mandatory volunteerism is an oxymoron.
>>You seem to also be a big fan of getting free labor. I’d bet you aren’t such a big fan of working for free yourself.<<
No, I just understand the law. I have had to work weekends in the past and I will have to in the future. It is my option to work them or quit. I choose to work. And I expect my reportees and colleagues to do the same, else they will find themselves significantly under-employed.
>>The poster said the college just “initiated” the requirement, which implies that said requirement was not in effect for students who had previously enrolled. If the existing students have a graduation agreement that lists the courses required for a particular degree program, then that constitutes a contract of sorts, and students pay for classes in return for credit for those classes. Unlike most contracts though, the terms are rather loose, as college costs seem to be caught in a strong updraft.<<
It is either contractual or it isn’t. Perhaps they can sue. But this isn’t forced labor by any definition.
>>In my opinion, every student subjected to the “new” requirements could legitimately sue the school for breach of contract, and in a just world win their cases. I would encourage them to sue for breach of contract, for every penny they had ever paid to the school, plus damages , and whatever they could squeeze out of a jury for the school’s violation of basic civil rights.<<
No civil rights issues here. A breach of contract suit might be in order. Now, if they said only WHITE (or black or whatever) students had to work the extra hours, that would be a civil rights issue.
>>Communists have no qualms about suing productive citizens and companies day in and day out. It’s the only way communists could exist — leeching off the productive.<<
Communists also don’t have much grasp of English common law that we base all out contract law on. But their predilections are not relevant here.
>>It’s high time the citizens start using the same tactics against the non-productive communists. The school provides a list of organizations, probably all fellow communist outfits, from which the students can choose.<<
Good idea — let the students protest if they don’t like the new rules. But it is a private action by private individuals against a private or quasi-private institution hat people voluntarily attend. There are no “rights” being violated here.
>>This stuff is not new. Public elementary schools have been sending their kids around to raise money for their communist causes for ages. No decent person, and certainly no conservative, supports this kind of crap. It is conditioning students to become mindless servants of a communist collective.<<
Public school is mandatory. Apples and pomegranates.
>>It really isn’t a matter of contract law. You know this, and are misdirecting for some reason. Mandatory volunteerism is an oxymoron. <<
Yes it is. The fact you don’t KNOW contract law doesn’t change it.
The worst thing in the world any Conservative can do is invent “rights” where none exist.
Had you studied any contract law, you would know that not all agreements are contracts. Not all written agreements are contracts. Contracts can be adjudicated to be void, voidable, unenforceable, or invalid.
The fact that fly-by-night liars, cheats and thieves can get someone's signature on a piece of paper does not necessarily constitute that a valid contract exists, or that is is enforceable.
Aside from your ignorance, I find your lack of principles detestable. You can remedy your ignorance with some education. Your lack of principles is a personal choice.
They sure as hell can. See Taylor v Taintor.
>>Aside from your ignorance, I find your lack of principles detestable. You can remedy your ignorance with some education. Your lack of principles is a personal choice.<<
I am sorry that you find my educating you to be detestable. You have no idea what my legal background is and you are wrong about how contracts apply to this particular circumstance,
Your willful ignorance of what is and isn’t a “right” is much much more detestable. It is sickening.
Good day and enjoy your liberal perspective. I mean, that is your right, right?
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