Posted on 10/08/2009 2:19:07 PM PDT by fiscon1
This is the type of weak-kneed response that bin Laden thought that the 9/11 attacks would have provoked. He just miscalculated on the timing of the response.
Barack Hussein Obama...the 21st hijacker.
I think he said we’d bomb into Pakistan if we had info on Al Qaeda. Still, he never said that he thought that the Taliban could be separated from AQ.
Also, just remember that he hasn’t made a decision yet and all of this comes from anonymous people, so who knows if this is really what he’s thinking.
My tail feathers will probably get a bit singed but this makes me ponder...the bulk of 9/11 hijackers came from Saudi Arabia but we didn’t do anything to SA. They still sponsor those nasty Madrasas (virulient wahabi muslim extremist schools for young minds all over the world). The Saudis are supposedly trying to take the world off the dollar, especially for oil. But our “leader” bows to them.
Pakistan has harbored Al-Q from the get go, including UBL, but we haven’t done much to them (unless Pinkie Bhuto’s assassination was a CAI wet ops - which I doubt).
I think Gen Petraeus’ outreach to Mookie al Sadr and other tribal leaders in Iraq helped us win hearts and minds there.
Afghanistan is run by war lords so it may be a fool’s errand to try to totally erase all vestiges of The Taliban. I’d love to wipe them all out, but Rudyard Kipling’s lines keep running through my head on the idea of ever hoping Afghanistan will become more civil:
The Young British Soldier
http://www.poemhunter.com/poem/the-young-british-soldier/
As Fr. McLaughlin used to say, “Maybe the lad (Bambi) has lurched unexpectedly into the truth.”
P.S. I’m a veteran in case it matters.
OK... So we can lose the war in Afghanistan, and this will still be good for America? Well, why didn’t you say so? That is a horse of a different color.
For over a year, I didn't understand the Freudian slip behind Obama's statement that there are 57 states. There ARE 57 Muslim states. It wasn't at the top of my mind, but it wasn't far below the surface of his.
I don’t think it was a Freudian slip but more of sending a message to the mooooslums. Same as his “slip” on Stephie’s Sunday program when he commented on his mooooslum faith which was corrected by Georgie.
If the Repubs in Congress had any gonads at all, they would be screaming this at the top of their lungs to every news outlet available. Every time a camera comes on, these should be the first words out of their mouths.
I think the Afghanis (those who feel safe saying it out loud) would disagree. Vehemently. That would be the bottom - to have our troops spend all that time, with loss of life, helping to try to free the Afghans of Taliban, a Taliban who slunk in after the Soviet war and forced their bitter rule on the Afghans by violence, the WH 'suddenly' wants to try to peg the Taliban as useful to Afghans future? A role in their future? Good grief.
Obama kept returning to one question for his advisers: Who is our adversary, the official said.
Is it like the article says, is the Taliban too entrenched in Afghan culture? This is a twist I didn't see coming from the White House. Words fail me.
jeezzzz
And to make it seem like most Afghans want this kind of horror, that the Taliban is somehow entrenched in their 'culture', is like spitting on them. It's like they're saying: 'Okay, we'll help you. For 8 years. Then we're giving you back to your oppressors.' It's a cruel 'joke'.
You're probably right on both counts.
How does anyone in this administration think this strategy is remotely plausible or even possible?
I would bet my last dollar Gen. McCrystal is dropped antacid tablets like M&M's after reading this horse shit.
I think they should arm all the women in Afghanistan and see what they have to say about any taliban that try to make slaves out of them again. I bet they are sweating bullets right now thinking about the murderous b******s that Bozo wants to put back into power. What the he** did all of our troops die for? Bozo needs to be impeached, now, if not sooner.
Have ANY OF THESE GENIUSES given thought to the problem in differentiating between these two groups? In 2001 BinLaden and the Mullah Omar of the Taliban were as thick as thieves and worked together to move Islam back into the Caliphate. These guys look the same, act the same and believe much the same. Obama says that we can 'tolerate the Taliban', the same guys that blew up the ancient Buddha's, enslaved the females forced all men to grow beards and otherwise wanted to move their world into the Stone Age.
BRILLIANT, JUST BRILLIANT!
Obama lied. Americans and our allies will die.
Maybe we could have ended WWII sooner if Roosevelt had offered the Nazis a role in governing Germany.
I’ll take door #3, Alex: BOTH!
Ditto. No, DITTO. What you said! “Please, if your not going to fight to win pull our soldiers out now. They deserve better.”
That's what it will come to, arming the civilians, the women, too. But that just helps guarantee more bloodshed. And the Taliban has deep pockets. It boggles the mind, doesn't it. He keeps us surprised, that's for sure. What did our troops die for, indeed. And the election, the Afghans came out in spite of the violence. It's like saying, hey, we give, you guys just go ahead with your plans. Just as France (and Canadian Muslims) seek to ban the burqa, our president is ensuring that another generation of Afghan women will be clad in it. He's naive to think the Taliban will 'work together with the Afghans' (did he not watch news coverage of the elections?).
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