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To: Red Steel

Red,

Maybe Leo backed down from his inital interpretation of 338-18 (d). I’ve read this several times and it “appears” that 18 (d) does stand alone as Leo indicated (?)

Here is 3 §338-18, including 18(d)

Disclosure of records. (a) To protect the integrity of vital statistics records, to ensure their proper use, and to ensure the efficient and proper administration of the vital statistics system, it shall be unlawful for any person to permit inspection of, or to disclose information contained in vital statistics records, or to copy or issue a copy of all or part of any such record, except as authorized by this part or by rules adopted by the department of health.

(b) The department shall not permit inspection of public health statistics records, or issue a certified copy of any such record or part thereof, unless it is satisfied that the applicant has a direct and tangible interest in the record. The following persons shall be considered to have a direct and tangible interest in a public health statistics record:

(1) The registrant;

(2) The spouse of the registrant;

(3) A parent of the registrant;

(4) A descendant of the registrant;

(5) A person having a common ancestor with the registrant;

(6) A legal guardian of the registrant;

(7) A person or agency acting on behalf of the registrant;

(8) A personal representative of the registrant’s estate;

(9) A person whose right to inspect or obtain a certified copy of the record is established by an order of a court of competent jurisdiction;

(10) Adoptive parents who have filed a petition for adoption and who need to determine the death of one or more of the prospective adopted child’s natural or legal parents;

(11) A person who needs to determine the marital status of a former spouse in order to determine the payment of alimony;

(12) A person who needs to determine the death of a nonrelated co-owner of property purchased under a joint tenancy agreement; and

(13) A person who needs a death certificate for the determination of payments under a credit insurance policy.

(c) The department may permit the use [of] the data contained in public health statistical records for research purposes only, but no identifying use thereof shall be made.

(d) Index data consisting of name and sex of the registrant, type of vital event, and such other data as the director may authorize shall be made available to the public.


63 posted on 09/27/2009 4:53:08 PM PDT by rocco55
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To: rocco55
to disclose information contained in vital statistics records

"Records" is the key here. I wouldn't back down if I was Donofrio. What we want is the database schema that describes the type of records not what the records says.

An example:

Count 3; Amendments; date of amendment change(s): Apr 23, 1964, Nov, 12, 1972; Jan 29, 1991.

Count 1 birth date
Count 0 hospital
Count 0 doctor
Count 1 witness affidavit
Count 2 remarks

68 posted on 09/27/2009 5:13:16 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: rocco55
Here is 3 §338-18, including 18(d)

Disclosure of records. (a) To protect the integrity of vital statistics records, to ensure their proper use, and to ensure the efficient and proper administration of the vital statistics system, it shall be unlawful for any person to permit inspection of, or to disclose information contained in vital statistics records, or to copy or issue a copy of all or part of any such record, except as authorized by this part or by rules adopted by the department of health.

To expand on my previous post "vital statistics records" is not the data base schema that is stored in data dictionary that Donofrio is after. Sorry for all the computer terms... Hawaii is screwed so they should lose in court.

71 posted on 09/27/2009 7:12:32 PM PDT by Red Steel
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