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To: rxsid

Can a “Natural” Born Citizen be “made” or “obtained” via statue?

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In a word - NO !!!

The ONLY way to definitively define NBC is by

1. An interpretation by SCOTUS of the term, as CURRENTLY written in the Constitution.

or:

2. By Constitutional amendment, EXACTLY stating what an NBC is.

Congress CANNOT define the term by statute.

What the Hawaii birth records person said about Obama being confirmed as an NBC is a bunch of hooey - since NO ONE knows what it is (at this time).

However, historically, the Founding Fathers (almost to a certainty) meant that an NBC was born under United States jurisdiction to two citizen parents.

This fits into English Common Law, upon which our law was derived.


274 posted on 09/22/2009 10:29:33 AM PDT by Lmo56
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To: Lmo56

The Senate Judiciary Committee under Leahy seems to agree that to be natural born requires two Ameerican citizen parents and being born on U.S. soil. When Leahy’s committee—which Barry Soetoro sat on as a Senate member/committee member—held hearings on McCain’s natural born citizen status, there was no question of his parents not being U.S. citizens, so the hearings were held to established the adde3d requirement of born on U.S. soil. The anti-birthers try to twist the hearings into something else because the anti-birthers are anti-american, seeking to legitimize anchor babies as NBC eligible. If having two American citizen parents was all that were required, there would have been no hearing and McCain’s mother woul dnot have had to testify in affidavit tot he committee. The non-binding resoultion sense of the Senate included the parentage citizenship in their declaration, and Barry Soetoro, aka Barry Obama, aka Barack Obama signed onto the standard endorsed by the resolution. BArry could not meet the standards, but he endorse them. ... And the pirate John Roberts administered the Oathof Office to the lying bastard anyway, twice! No wonder the sevile SCOTUS deosn’t want to take a case questioning the affirmative action liar’s eligibility! Roberts pissed on his own oath and cannot now hide it if he has to address the Constitutional meaning of Natural Born Citizen.


279 posted on 09/22/2009 10:52:22 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Dems, believing they cannot be deceived, it is impossible to convince them when they are deceived.)
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To: Lmo56
Exactly! On all points. Furthermore, not only does it fit English Common Law, but it fits Natural Law as well. Both, used, referenced, relied upon and understood by both the founders and the framers.

Natural Born citizenship can only come from being born on soil of the country to both parents owing no allegiance to another or having the possibility of passing their foreign citizenship on to their child. Naturally, someone born in that scenario owes no allegiance to another (foreign) country. It comes from not having to rely upon "mans" law's.

283 posted on 09/22/2009 11:10:06 AM PDT by rxsid (HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
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To: Lmo56
"However, historically, the Founding Fathers (almost to a certainty) meant that an NBC was born under United States jurisdiction to two citizen parents.

This fits into English Common Law, upon which our law was derived."

Not true.

"It thus clearly appears that, by the law of England for the last three centuries, beginning before the settlement of this country and continuing to the present day, aliens, while residing in the dominions possessed by the Crown of England, were within the allegiance, the obedience, the faith or loyalty, the protection, the power, the jurisdiction of the English Sovereign, and therefore every child born in England of alien parents was a natural-born subject unless the child of an ambassador or other diplomatic agent of a foreign State or of an alien enemy in hostile occupation of the place where the child was born."

"III. The same rule was in force in all the English Colonies upon this continent down to the time of the Declaration of Independence, and in the United States afterwards, and continued to prevail under the Constitution as originally established."

United States v. Wong Kim Ark, 169 U.S. 649 (1898)

The English Common Law, as the Supreme Court explained here, was that someone born in the country is a "natural born subject", regardless of the citizenship of the parents.

286 posted on 09/22/2009 11:26:55 AM PDT by mlo
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