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To: Lmo56
So, he would STILL be a dual national AND NOT an NBC ...

Doesn't matter. His father would still not have been a US citizen, which is what matters. Rummy Chick has looked into the British law at the time, and a legal marriage does matter. But it's complicated, since much of the British empire did allow polygamy, their nationality laws allowed for that, so the place of marriage and the legal domicile of the British subject parent seem to matter as to British nationality at birth.

"Dual Citizenhip" is something of a Red Herring, it's the nationality status of the parents, plural, that counts.

202 posted on 09/21/2009 10:59:21 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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So, he would STILL be a dual national AND NOT an NBC ...
Doesn’t matter. His father would still not have been a US citizen, which is what matters. Rummy Chick has looked into the British law at the time, and a legal marriage does matter. But it’s complicated, since much of the British empire did allow polygamy, their nationality laws allowed for that, so the place of marriage and the legal domicile of the British subject parent seem to matter as to British nationality at birth.

“Dual Citizenhip” is something of a Red Herring, it’s the nationality status of the parents, plural, that counts.

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We are kinda splitting hairs here - if you read my other posts, you will see that I am in agreement with you.

The location AND the parents citizenship BOTH determine what a person’s citizenship status is ...

My contention is that an NBC satisfies BOTH requirements and that the Founding Fathers’ definition of NBC was the same.

I point out that, per the 14th Amendment and the British Nationality Act of 1948, Obama is a dual national and NOT an NBC - since a dual national DOES NOT owe one allegiance to one country.

This exactly fits the definition that I believe the Founding Fathers had ...

NBC = born under United States jurisdiction of citizen parents.

Citizen = born under United States jurisdiction to any type of parents or naturalized by statute.


271 posted on 09/22/2009 10:16:44 AM PDT by Lmo56
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