[RegulatorCountry]

Both native and natural born are born in the United States, Sibre Fan. And yet, they are not entirely the same. That much is obvious because the terminology is not the same. So, what distinction do you suppose can be made, between citizens born in the United States? I'll give you a hint: the Constitution makes the distinction, and only for election to the executive branch.

[mlo]

"Both native and natural born are born in the United States, Sibre Fan. And yet, they are not entirely the same."

So you assert. But there's nothing to back it up. Wong makes it clear you are wrong.

[LibertarianAdam]

Does it? I don’t see where it is explicit.

I searched the text of the Constitution, and it does contain the word “natural born citizen”, but not “native born citizen”. So no clear distinction can be made.

Also, though I am loathe like all the amendments that came after the bill of rights, the 14th did change the the definition of citizen, so an appeal to the founders is moot.

It would be like appealing to the founders about whether women can vote. It doesn’t matter what the founders thought (they probably would have unanimously objected), they put in a way to amend the constitution and new “founders” impact that part of our law. The founding fathers have no bearing on what the 19th amendment means except to ensure it was properly ratified.

I know I probably have few fans here as a non-birther, but nothing makes me more upset than seeing conservatives usurp the Constitution (not the be confused with the Founders in at least 27 cases!). The Constitution and its amendments are pretty clear, we shouldn’t make stuff up about them.

[Sibre Fan]

Both native and natural born are born in the United States, Sibre Fan. And yet, they are not entirely the same. That much is obvious because the terminology is not the same.

As shown at links to Supreme Court Cases that I just posted above, this statement is just inaccurate under existing law.

There are multiple cases in which the Supreme Court directly equates "native born" with "natural born" and there is NO case (that has not since been overturned or abrogated by statute) that draws the distinction you wish to impose.