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To: etraveler13
"The listed COLB was from FactCheck, not from the Obama Admin. to begin with."

No. Factcheck posted images of the document provided by the Obama campaign.

"Next it was shown forensically to be a fake."

No, it hasn't been. A couple of internet crackpots tried to make that claim. No actual expert has made such a claim.

"Next the words from Hawaii were parsed, they were lawyerized, they never stated they had the long form birth certificate, just that they had the origonal COLB. We know that in 1961, there were 4 different ways to get a Certification (not Certificate) of Live birth, and 3 of those 4 ways do not involve being born in the Hawaiian Islands. I can provide links for them refuting each item I specified if you can’t find them."

You are repeating birther distortions. None of them make the existing COLB go away, or change the fact that it says he was born in Honolulu.

70 posted on 09/21/2009 3:03:21 PM PDT by mlo
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To: mlo

“The listed COLB was from FactCheck, not from the Obama Admin. to begin with.”


No. Factcheck posted images of the document provided by the Obama campaign.

There have never been any Hawaiian Government Officials that have verified the Certification of Live Birth as shown on Fact Check’s website matches the one on file with the Hawaiian Department of Health. Again, all the Hawaiian Officials have stated is that Mr. Obama has a valid vital record on file in accordance with the Hawaiian laws.

This is what you saw...
http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/born_in_the_usa.html

Forensic Document analysis:
http://web.israelinsider.com/Articles/Politics/12993.htm
and
http://polarik.blogtownhall.com/
and More information showing two independent Forensic Document experts say its bogus.
http://www.theobamafile.com/ObamaCOLB.htm

“Next the words from Hawaii were parsed, they were lawyerized, they never stated they had the long form birth certificate, just that they had the origonal COLB. We know that in 1961, there were 4 different ways to get a Certification (not Certificate) of Live birth, and 3 of those 4 ways do not involve being born in the Hawaiian Islands. I can provide links for them refuting each item I specified if you can’t find them.”


You are repeating birther distortions. None of them make the existing COLB go away, or change the fact that it says he was born in Honolulu.

There are serious questions as to the Associated Press, Honolulu’s recent statements that Dr. Fukino, the Director of the Hawaii Department of Health stated she has verified Barry Soetoro a/k/a Barack H. Obama was in fact born in Hawaii. If you recall October 31, 2008 and early November 2008, this same paper, AP, Honolulu ran an article stating Dr. Fukino and Hawaii Governmental Officials had in fact verified that Barack H. Obama was born in Hawaii. This is completely false, if you look at Dr. Fukino’s Press Release dated October 31, 2008, no where is it stated Barack H. Obama was born in Hawaii or that any person verified that he was born in Hawaii. Instead, what it stated was Dr. Fukino along with the Hawaiian Registrar had verified Barack H. Obama’s birth certificate was on file according to the laws of Hawaii. At no time prior to AP Honolulu’s July 28, 2009 story, which is questionable, has any Hawaii Official, including Linda Lingle, backed up the claim that Barack Obama was born in Hawaii.


95 posted on 09/21/2009 4:27:55 PM PDT by etraveler13
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