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To: Sibre Fan

The lawyer contends that the results of Wong Kim Ark, say that even if he was born in the US, he is not a US citizen (Natural Born), even tho he was born in SF. His parents were not US citizens. Yet the supreme court says he is a citizen because he was born in SF.
How does that help his case? I presumed that not to be the case. If one parent was not a US citizen, Kenyan, and the other was not in the United States 5 years after her 14th birthday (SADO), he was not a natural born citizen.
I see discrepancy in his argument.
I contend his birthplace is Kenay, that the Lucas Smith BC is genuine, and the COLB shown by FactCheck is a forgery, and the correct COLB shows as such.
http://axj.puntoforo.com/viewtopic.php?t=2536&sid=8903cffcea191d07d67781a24664d53b


37 posted on 09/21/2009 1:19:48 PM PDT by etraveler13
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To: etraveler13
The lawyer contends that the results of Wong Kim Ark, say that even if he was born in the US, he is not a US citizen (Natural Born), even tho he was born in SF. His parents were not US citizens. Yet the supreme court says he is a citizen because he was born in SF.

That's why I think that the lawyer(s) contending that ...
(a) Wong Kim Ark supports their NBC/two-citizen parents argument; or that
(b) Wong Kim Ark is irrelevant to their argument; or that
(c) Wong Kim Ark does not hurt their argument
.... are wrong.

I think Wong Kim Ark clearly stands for the proposition that a child born in the United States is a citizen -- a native born citizen aka natural born citizen of the US, regardless of the citizenship of his parents.
43 posted on 09/21/2009 1:39:25 PM PDT by Sibre Fan
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To: etraveler13

In this passage from United States v. Wong Kim Ark

It shows that natural born was not addressed

At common law, with the nomenclature of which the framers of the Constitution were familiar, it was never doubted that all children, born in a country of [p680] parents who were its citizens, became themselves, upon their birth, citizens also. These were natives, or natural-born citizens, as distinguished from aliens or foreigners. Some authorities go further, and include as citizens children born within the jurisdiction, without reference to the citizenship of their parents. As to this class, there have been doubts, but never as to the first. For the purposes of this case, it is not necessary to solve these doubts. It is sufficient for everything we have now to consider that all children born of citizen parents within the jurisdiction are themselves citizens.


45 posted on 09/21/2009 1:51:52 PM PDT by Elderberry
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